A number of rules based questions (anti-paladin, samurai, horses)


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I have a friend who began the game as an Anti-Paladin. He is now, at a total level of 9, multi-classing as a Samurai for reasons (so anti-paladin level 8, Samurai level 1). Here are my questions:

1. At level 5 he took the fiendish boon of gaining a summon. How do we level up this summons. The summon page doesn't give many details on leveling up the summons. He seems to think he summons a creature that is basically a horse monster from a dead body which he keeps and levels up like a normal horse but the way I'm reading it, he actually just re summons from a few specific summons (since it has to be chaotic, evil or fiendish) every other level.

2. Does an anti-Paladin have an effective druid level? If fiendish boon work how I think it does (as a summon, not a standard horse) then I don't think he would but I'd like some confirmation on this.

3. Now that he's also multi-classing as a samurai, he does get an actual horse. Can he get this horse? I don't see why not but for some reason I though that if he wanted more than one animal companion he needed to have a particular feat (leadership for example). Also, does the chaotic, evil, fiendish thing come into play? For fiendish boon it says that the creature must be one of those, that wouldn't leak over into a multi-class, right?


1. You summon from the list provided, and when you level, you summon from the new list. Antipaladins are different from Paladins in this.

2. No

3. Sure, Fiendish Boon is not an animal companion.

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Kestral is correct, however I think it would be a reasonable house rule to change the fiendish boon to work like a paladin's mount, in which case he would have effective druid level 9 but get extra bonuses like the fiendish template according to his antipaladin level only.

EDIT: just saw your other thread, you should have specified that this was the seal-breaker archetype. The corpse rider ability does grant an animal companion (albeit with type changed to undead). Adjusted answers:

1. It levels up like a druid's companion, but with the changes to save progression and HP given in the archetype.

2. Effective druid level = antipaladin level

3. I think he can just add his cavalier level to antipaladin level for calculating effective druid level - an undead horse is still a horse. It's also the simplest solution. But check with your GM. Moving to other thread to see if there's more discussion on that note.


Thanks everyone, I thought I deleted this post because I found the answers quickly after posting this.

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