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I believe the official answer is that they're under development, and will be available at some unspecified future date.
That said, the PFS team have approximately twelve million different things going on. Time spent developing the pregens is time that isn't being used to develop new scenarios, sanction new content, edit the next edition of the Guide, etc. Personally, I'm perfectly happy with that particular item being relatively low-priority.
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Soon? I can almost guarantee we will not see them soon.
Ever? That is a little less sure. That said, I doubt it as one of those classes was just severely changed.
Remember, the Advanced players guide classes were for Advanced players. Pregens are supposed to be simple for a new player. Thus we have a bit of a contradiction, one I do not see being resolved any time soon.
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Soon? I can almost guarantee we will not see them soon.
Ever? That is a little less sure. That said, I doubt it as one of those classes was just severely changed.
Remember, the Advanced players guide classes were for Advanced players. Pregens are supposed to be simple for a new player. Thus we have a bit of a contradiction, one I do not see being resolved any time soon.
I wrote the stats part for the APG pregens and Seltyiel before the ACG pregens, but the trouble is that a lot more goes into a pregen than the stats part, and the PFS team pretty much always has something else that's on fire (John and Linda were pulling 11-12 hour days last week and the week before to get both Specials out for Paizocon, and they have 9 scenarios* worth of stuff to go between now and Gencon).
*Where a 1-11 counts as two scenarios and a set of quests counts as one scenario.
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I doubt he Advanced Player Guide + Magus pregens will come out anytime soon if ever. I don't think the Advanced Player Guide + Magus pregens are high enough priority to make. There isn't any dead line by which they have to be made. The Occult Pre gens came out to support the sale of the Occult Adventures book. Last year the ACG pre gens came out to support the Advanced Class guide. The Advanced Players guide and Ultimate Magic have been out for several years.
This of course is understandable with the work loads the Paizo staff has. However I'm still hopeful they will be put out some time.
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Alain demands perfection! He doesn't want to be a lesser pregen that gets passed over for another one or worse, requires improvement afterwards. He is willing to wait until the development team does him right and they have so many other things going on than listen to his insane demands.
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It sounded like from an earlier conversation that we almost got the APG pregens for Gencon, they just ran out of time on them. I would expect that once we get a shiny new Global Coordinator we'll see some of the backlog of projects get tackled.
One pregen thats guaranteed it won't be on that list.... The Summoner.
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UndeadMitch wrote:It sounded like from an earlier conversation that we almost got the APG pregens for Gencon, they just ran out of time on them. I would expect that once we get a shiny new Global Coordinator we'll see some of the backlog of projects get tackled.One pregen thats guaranteed it won't be on that list.... The Summoner.
You're assuming that they don't release an Unchained Summoner pregen.
LazarX
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LazarX wrote:You're assuming that they don't release an Unchained Summoner pregen.UndeadMitch wrote:It sounded like from an earlier conversation that we almost got the APG pregens for Gencon, they just ran out of time on them. I would expect that once we get a shiny new Global Coordinator we'll see some of the backlog of projects get tackled.One pregen thats guaranteed it won't be on that list.... The Summoner.
That wouldn't be an APG pre-gen then. It'd be an Unchained! pre-gen.
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UndeadMitch wrote:That wouldn't be an APG pre-gen then. It'd be an Unchained! pre-gen.LazarX wrote:You're assuming that they don't release an Unchained Summoner pregen.UndeadMitch wrote:It sounded like from an earlier conversation that we almost got the APG pregens for Gencon, they just ran out of time on them. I would expect that once we get a shiny new Global Coordinator we'll see some of the backlog of projects get tackled.One pregen thats guaranteed it won't be on that list.... The Summoner.
Count it, it's close enough. Quit arguing for the sake of arguing.
LazarX
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LazarX wrote:Count it, it's close enough. Quit arguing for the sake of arguing.UndeadMitch wrote:That wouldn't be an APG pre-gen then. It'd be an Unchained! pre-gen.LazarX wrote:You're assuming that they don't release an Unchained Summoner pregen.UndeadMitch wrote:It sounded like from an earlier conversation that we almost got the APG pregens for Gencon, they just ran out of time on them. I would expect that once we get a shiny new Global Coordinator we'll see some of the backlog of projects get tackled.One pregen thats guaranteed it won't be on that list.... The Summoner.
Clarification is important. The APG Summoner is different enough from it's Unchained version to be an entirely different class, with the Eidolon, Spell lists being majorly worked over. Also pretty much none of the archetypes carry over either, save for Evolutionist.
Erik Mona
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We will get around to this. The resources that would have gone to doing this instead went to bridging the gap while we looked for a new Campaign Coordinator.
Since our new Campaign Coordinator is now happily in place, we'll put this back into the mix once the PFS team has had a chance to catch their breath.
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I'd love to be able to play Feiya...
Poking the bear, on behalf of my local community, I've had three requests from three different people at three different events all asking for Feiya, two of those from new players who really just want to be a witch. The third was my wife, but mostly so when I mentioned to the players that "<my wife's name> is playing a witch" she leaped up from the table to shout "I'm not a witch I'm your wife!" (She apparently plots her jokes out many weeks in advance....)
So one bad joke and two earnest requests, please APG pregens,
Cheers
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I know the PFS team is busy, but maybe they could outsource this job to a starving student who's already laid down some of the groundwork?
Hmm