grab and grabbing style


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So say I have a character with both the grab ability and the grabbing style (I don't know if you can take a style feat if you aren't a monk or brawler, I never used them much). For example: a level 12 monk who decided to take a dip in sythesist summoner for a claw attack with the grab ability.

Now under grab it says:
"The creature has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use the part of its body it used in the grab to hold the opponent. If it chooses to do the latter, it takes a –20 penalty on its CMB check to make and maintain the grapple, but does not gain the grappled condition itself."

And under grabbing style it says:
"Benefit: When you use this style, you do not take a –4 penalty on combat maneuver checks to grapple a foe with only one hand. Additionally, you do not lose your Dexterity bonus to AC while pinning an opponent.

Normal: Without two hands free, you take a –4 penalty on the combat maneuver roll to grapple a foe. While pinning a foe, you lose your Dexterity bonus to AC."

So my question is, how would you rule it if you used the two together? Do you lose the -20? A part of it? Or nothing?

Sczarni

From what I understand, they're different penalties.

Taking -20 allows you to ignore the Grappled condition.

Taking -4 allows you to use one hand rather than two.


Well that's dissapointing.

Scarab Sages

Be a Tetori. They do not take penalties when Grappled after level 4.

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