Sheilds as weapons?


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I haven't been able to get a good answer to my various questions about the use of shields as weapons. With the Bashing enhancement you can do extra damage, that I get, but can a shield be used with both hands for extra damage? Can you add weapon enhancements to a shield such as Flaming, or Ghost Touch?

Grand Lodge

Yes, and yes.

Heavy and Light Shields are Martial Weapons.

They can be used with any feat that specifies a weapon, like Weapon Focus, or used with a spell that specifies a weapon, like Magic Weapon, or any class ability that specifies a weapon, like the Good Domain's Holy Lance ability, and can be enchanted with any weapon special ability, like Bane.

You can attack with a shield, as an off-hand attack, a main hand attack, or wielded with two hands.

It is also part of the Close Weapon Fighter group, and a Brawler can use it as part of a Brawler's Flurry.


Just remember that making it a +3(weapon) Flaming OrcBane Heavy Shield doesn't give you +3 to AC and +3(shield) doesn't give you +3 to attack and damage, unless you have the Shield Master feat.

Sczarni

A shield can be used and enchanted as a weapon.

The only detail that people disagree on is the gold cost of doing so.

Some people believe that having a "masterwork shield", and paying the 150gp price tag for such an item, is all that is required to enchant it as a weapon.

Others believe that in order to give a shield weapon enchantments you must pay the 300gp price tag that a masterwork weapon requires.

And then people argue whether or not you have to pay both masterwork costs, or just one.

But the fact that a shield is a weapon isn't up for debate.

Grand Lodge

Nefreet wrote:

A shield can be used and enchanted as a weapon.

The only detail that people disagree on is the gold cost of doing so.

Some people believe that having a "masterwork shield", and paying the 150gp price tag for such an item, is all that is required to enchant it as a weapon.

Others believe that in order to give a shield weapon enchantments you must pay the 300gp price tag that a masterwork weapon requires.

And then people argue whether or not you have to pay both masterwork costs, or just one.

But the fact that a shield is a weapon isn't up for debate.

Where have you been lately? On this venue, no cow is sacred, and everything is always up for debate.

Sczarni

My humble apologies.

I should have stated "legitimately" up for debate.

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