Investigator / Keen Recollection


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Keen Recollection wrote:
At 3rd level, an investigator can attempt all Knowledge skill checks untrained.
Technologist wrote:
Normal: You treat all skill checks made against technology as if they were untrained skill checks. This may mean that you cannot attempt certain skill checks, even if you possess ranks in the skill in question.

When you look at the wording it seems pretty clear cut that the Investigator can make Technology related Knowledge checks untrained.

What about other limited knowledge checks? We played "The Devil you Know Part I" last week and there was a knowledge check that could only be made by characters from Taldor.

Should Investigators be allowed to do those untrained? It falls under all knowledge checks but I thought I'd check with you guys.

Sovereign Court

I would let the Investigator use Keen Recollection against technology, but I would require the PC to have a background from Taldor for the other.

Just me though.

I don't think allowing it for both is a problem.


The question about Skill checks and Technology came up in PFS. It was reported that Paizo did not want abilities like Keen Recollection to work against Technology. In other words, Paizo said no, nobody gets to make Techno checks untrained. Bard/Investigator/Lore Warden...nope. There is a feat you can get in the Technology Guide that allows you to make techno checks.

I'll give you three guesses as to why Paizo made this call and the first two don't count.

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