A couple topics have come up about Task-trait barriers, and it got me thinking about what-ifs.
Suppose you have a task (eg, Bucket Brigade) face-up on your location deck. You fail it, then explore again, and find another task (eg, Lookout Duty.) You manage to fail this one too.
1. Both tasks want to be face-up on top of the same location deck. Which one, the oldest or newest, is actually on top of the other?
2. Do subsequent explores in the same turn encounter the other "on top" tasks?
3. If this stack of tasks has multiple start-of-turn effects, do they all resolve, or just the one that's actually on top?
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Simply put: if you get more than one face-up task on the same location, how do you resolve it all?
RULES: FACEUP CARDS
Sometimes a card is left faceup on the top of the location deck (for example, most barriers with the Task trait work this way). The card is still in the deck, but it can only be shuffled into the deck when the condition that caused it to be left faceup on the deck has been resolved. If such a card tells you that you must encounter it on your first exploration on a turn, then you must encounter it the first time you explore that turn. After that exploration, ignore it for the purpose of additional explorations that turn; however, it still counts as the top card of the deck for any other purpose. If multiple cards are left faceup on the same deck, you may place them in any order and encounter them in that order.
A couple topics have come up about Task-trait barriers, and it got me thinking about what-ifs.
Suppose you have a task (eg, Bucket Brigade) face-up on your location deck. You fail it, then explore again, and find another task (eg, Lookout Duty.) You manage to fail this one too.
1. Both tasks want to be face-up on top of the same location deck. Which one, the oldest or newest, is actually on top of the other?
1. You decide which order when you place them faceup, but keep them in that order.
2. Do subsequent explores in the same turn encounter the other "on top" tasks?
2. Yup. After you explore each one, set it aside for the rest of that turn, then explore the next one. If you can keep exploring you get to facedown cards. At the end of the turn, put all the faceup cards back on top.
3. If this stack of tasks has multiple start-of-turn effects, do they all resolve, or just the one that's actually on top?
3. I'd say all of them. Nothing says they don't, and I think they are worded so that once face up those effects are in play.
1-2. Awesome, thanks! :)
3. That could be nasty, but makes narrative sense. I'll go with it.
You are welcome. Hopefully you don't have too many faceup at once. But if you (or anyone) does, I'd love to hear about it.
I disagree on point 2, namely that the FAQ clarified that you encounter them on the first explore of the turn, and the rest of the original rule deals with ordering them in the order to encounter them. As such, the way I read it the first time you explore in a turn you encounter all of the faceup task barriers (with the "encounter this card as the first exploration on your turn" power) one after the other, but in the order you chose when placing them on top. Subsequent explores on the same turn would skip the entire stack of faceup cards you've already encountered and go down the deck from there.
So, are you saying if there were 3 faceup barriers on top of the location deck, for your first actual exploration, you would encounter one, then the second, then the third, all at the cost of one exploration to encounter 3 cards?
Yes, that is how I interpret the rules, which says you must encounter them the first time you explore that turn, not the second or third time and so on. The rules further state that the are encountered in the order you arrange them, lending credence to the fact you could encounter multiple of them in the course of one exploration. The main clarification that needs to be made here is that whether or not "encounter them in that order" implies "over the course of that many explorations" and if so, the earlier wording needs tweaking to say that these cards can be encountered as not your first explore as well in the case of multiple.
Hmmm... I can see what you are saying. But it also talks about them as a singular. i.e. this sentence is all about 1 card:
If such a card tells you that you must encounter it on your first exploration on a turn, then you must encounter it the first time you explore that turn. After that exploration, ignore it for the purpose of additional explorations that turn; however, it still counts as the top card of the deck for any other purpose.
But this sentence does say encounter them in that order, not explore them in that order:
If multiple cards are left faceup on the same deck, you may place them in any order and encounter them in that order.
So I'm actually not sure if you should have to expend an exploration getting to subsequent faceup cards or not. I swear there was thread about this, but the search function was updated this week and the indexes haven't been completely restored. Vic posted the FAQ on October 9th, but I can't find another post by him on that day in the tread where the question came from.
EDIT: It seem the FAQ'd part came from here.
But I really feel there was something about the multiple encounters/exploration.
I always thought there should be some barriers that should counteract each other. For example, if a Storm moved to a location that was affected by Becalmed, the Becalmed should be banished.
That falls under "encounter a bunyip in the House of Stolen Kisses." Don't sweat fluff-paradoxes. :) But yeah, I can see where things are so contradictory to where they "should" negate each other.