[funny] Can Paladins lie?…. To themselves?

[Brandon Dellmen]

A funny thing happened in our group today where our paladin was in kind of a denial phase. It got to the point where I said OOC “Dude paladin’s can’t lie even to themselves” and the whole group was just laughing the rest of the session.

At that point we discussed stupid ways a paladin can unknowingly break his vows.

What about you guys.

[Imbicatus]

We were in a trap heavy dungeon, and the paladin fell into every pit trap we encountered. "I know paladins fall all the time, but four times in one session has to be a record."

[TarkXT]

Bathroom break.

Paladin and barbarian in bushes.

Paladin catches a peek.

Looks down.

"Well at least I can be sure I'm like the average male."

Falls.

[Judy Bauer]

Not paladins specifically, but my favorite part of Pathfinder Adventure Path #63: The Asylum Stone:

Spoiler:

There's an NPC who uses a zone of truth to untangle her feelings about her relationships and general situation. Golarion-style therapy.

[I'm Hiding In Your Closet]

"I bought my companion a drink - I'm no Alchemist, how was I to know alcohol counts as a poison?"

[Mikaze]

Unintentional self-deception is actually a pretty important part of my WotR paladin's drama so I'm definitely voting "yes".

Same for feeling mundane fear. Losing both removes a lot of the human experience.

(the paladin that tries to be the paragon has more appeal to me than the paladin that effortlessly is, tbh)

[Waglinde]

When my lover swears she is made of truth, I do believe her though I know she lies

That she might think me some untutored youth, unlearned in the world's false subtleties

Thus vainly thinking she thinks me young

Although she knows my days are past the best

Simply I credit her false speaking tongue

On both sides thus is simple truth suppressed

But wherefore says she not she is unjust?

And wherefore say not I that I am old

Oh, love's best habit is in seeming trust

And age in love loves not to have years told

Therefore I lie with her and she with me

And in our faults, by lies, we flatter'd be