I want to play an Advanced Cave Troll


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Yes I know Trolls are bad guys, but I do want to kind of break the mold so to speak.

After all they are CE by nature and likely worship chaotic evil gods. Well what is more chaotic then a Troll or sect of trolls that are not inherently evil. And knowing they are Neutral or Good in alignment and still get attacked and killed just for existing is pure Evil so why wouldn't a CE god form a N, NG, CG band of trolls just to watch either the other trolls rip them apart, or watch so called good guys butcher them. After all they so not have the Evil Subtype and so thus are not absolutely evil, heck I do believe a Succubus became a Paladin once, and they do have the evil subtype.

Anyway, this is going to be a Gestalt Game (Which is how I can get away with the Troll HD.)
I was also thinking of tagging the Advanced Template on the Troll's side, which would get ride of the negs to ability scores.

So what Class would be on the Non-RHD side?
With no negs to Int, a bonus to Wis, and no negs to Cha I was thinking possibly some form of Caster, imagine a caster making his own touch attacks in combat lol.

With that insane of a Dex score though, I kind of want to make use of it.
Books and such available are anything off the SRD, the unofficial PFSRD, MIC (3.5) and any of the Complete and Races of Books, Dungeonscape, and possibly more if I have the book to it.
This is a 20 point buy

The reason I am being allowed such a powerful set up is, well I am a troll in a campaign were not everyone is going to just open up and accept me as a good guy.

Shrek is kind of a inspiration for this character (Evil presumed creature being a good guy really at least)


Are you sure you don't want to play a goliath druid? They can turn into giants (which includes trolls) at level 6. By the time that rolls around, you get enough wildshape time that you can pull a Fiona. And at level 8, you can be a troll 24/7 it seems (3/day for 8 hours)

Just throwing this out there.


Well to be honest, I would more likely be able to pass along a Half-Troll rather then this form. This honestly is insanely powerful.

If I did Half-Troll I might do it on a Orc for their Ferocity (Plus take Troll-Blooded for Regeneration 1)

Also I really do not want to be Large, as it is a big hindrance overall.


Doc Green wrote:

Well to be honest, I would more likely be able to pass along a Half-Troll rather then this form. This honestly is insanely powerful.

If I did Half-Troll I might do it on a Orc for their Ferocity (Plus take Troll-Blooded for Regeneration 1)

Also I really do not want to be Large, as it is a big hindrance overall.

Eh, I am caught by the allure of getting a reach build with a scimitar... I will admit that freely.


Oh it would be very interesting indeed.
Also Half-Troll does not grant a size change.


Doc Green wrote:

Oh it would be very interesting indeed.

Also Half-Troll does not grant a size change.

Oh, sorry, I was still going on about the goliath druid archetype.

And if you are a half orc, you can use a falchion with it...which hits like a greatsword when large.

Sczarni

You said pretty much what you want, but you didn't mention much about what your GM wants. Playing a troll is highly dependent on the game setting. If your troll character even so much entered into regular human city, he would be shot and burned first with questions asked later but if he entered into Kaer Maga it would be ordinary sight. So before you even consider playing such character, think about if it's gonna mesh well into the setting. It might mean difference between having a fun and not so fun session.

Also, if I remember right, Shrek was a ogre, not a troll. He only had weird ears and green color. There is a Half-ogre template or race I believe that I saw once and it might be applicable to what you wish to play. Alternative race traits of some race, might give you "green" color maybe if you research it.

That's what crossed my mind at the moment,

Adam


"This ugly humanoid appears to be about 6 feet tall. Its leathery skin is blackish-gray and its eyes are yellow. It has long, upright ears, almost elven in nature. Its arms and legs are long and slender and end in wicked-looking claws."
That is the description. So I was thinking he may be able to use a Disguise check to poss as a Elf or even Half-Orc with some horrible deformity or curse.

As he is Medium and not Large, As he is blackish gray and not the green most people would suspect I could see it causing some confusion.

Grand Lodge

Well, if you wanna disguise, you will want that CHA to be good at the first few levels.

Swashbuckler and Bloodrager are the first 2 thoughts that come too me. Following that, I am liking Druid (Storm Druid for some fun casting) and Inquisitor.

Now, as for "breaking the mold" I prefer to use some form of Fungal creature for that.


Interesting suggestions.

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