Beast totem + Imp Natural Weapon + enlarge + belt of thunderous charge

[Tarth]

my question is do these stack?

at level ten, I have my barb doing 4d6 damage with a claw attack

1d8 (beast totem) > 2d6 (imp natural weapon) > 3d6 (enlarge) > 4d6 (belt of thunderous charge)

I'm sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, my google fu is weak this afternoon.

[Rabbiteconomist]

If you can take improved natural weapon for natural weapons you gain from rage powers, that will work when you charge (belt of thunderous charging for the last size increase) while enlarged.

That's pretty disgusting :) Although, I bet two claw attacks of 3d6 is better than one 4d6 charge attack. What's your barb's strength when s/he is enlarged like that?

[claudekennilol]

I would let them stack. Others opinions may vary. Paizo has been very silent about stacking different size-altering abilities.

For what its worth, on the PFS hunter pregen, it has that Improved Natural Attack (which is what I assume you meant by 'imp natural weapon') stacks with Strong Jaw (which is a spell that increase a natural weapon's size) and has for the tactics for the hunter that they work.

But the beast totem claws that I see have a base damage of 1d6.. Which would give you a net total of 3d6. Nevermind, I forgot the greater beast totem feat increased the base damage.

[Rabbiteconomist]

claudekennilol wrote:

I would let them stack. Others opinions may vary. Paizo has been very silent about stacking different size-altering abilities.

For what its worth, on the PFS hunter pregen, it has that Improved Natural Attack (which is what I assume you meant by 'imp natural weapon') stacks with Strong Jaw (which is a spell that increase a natural weapon's size) and has for the tactics for the hunter that they work.

But I the beast totem claws that I see have a base damage of 1d6.. Which would give you a net total of 3d6.

At 10th, the beast totem greater ability bumps to 1d8 for medium sized.

[Tarth]

Rabbiteconomist wrote:

claudekennilol wrote:

I would let them stack. Others opinions may vary. Paizo has been very silent about stacking different size-altering abilities.

For what its worth, on the PFS hunter pregen, it has that Improved Natural Attack (which is what I assume you meant by 'imp natural weapon') stacks with Strong Jaw (which is a spell that increase a natural weapon's size) and has for the tactics for the hunter that they work.

But I the beast totem claws that I see have a base damage of 1d6.. Which would give you a net total of 3d6.

At 10th, the beast totem greater ability bumps to 1d8 for medium sized.

It's actually 2x claw attack, I left it single for clarity. with power attack and Reckless abadon i'm doing 2x +18 | 4d6+15 and I have bite, too.

[Tarth]

Rabbiteconomist wrote:

claudekennilol wrote:

I would let them stack. Others opinions may vary. Paizo has been very silent about stacking different size-altering abilities.

For what its worth, on the PFS hunter pregen, it has that Improved Natural Attack (which is what I assume you meant by 'imp natural weapon') stacks with Strong Jaw (which is a spell that increase a natural weapon's size) and has for the tactics for the hunter that they work.

But I the beast totem claws that I see have a base damage of 1d6.. Which would give you a net total of 3d6.

At 10th, the beast totem greater ability bumps to 1d8 for medium sized.

Precedence is always welcome!

[Rabbiteconomist]

Tarth wrote:

Rabbiteconomist wrote:

claudekennilol wrote:

I would let them stack. Others opinions may vary. Paizo has been very silent about stacking different size-altering abilities.

For what its worth, on the PFS hunter pregen, it has that Improved Natural Attack (which is what I assume you meant by 'imp natural weapon') stacks with Strong Jaw (which is a spell that increase a natural weapon's size) and has for the tactics for the hunter that they work.

But I the beast totem claws that I see have a base damage of 1d6.. Which would give you a net total of 3d6.

At 10th, the beast totem greater ability bumps to 1d8 for medium sized.

It's actually 2x claw attack, I left it single for clarity. with power attack and Reckless abadon i'm doing 2x +18 | 4d6+15 and I have bite, too.

How do your fellow players and GM feel? Are they cheering you or asking about it because it's perceived as a balance issue? What you have done is fairly simple and fair. Normal progression of rage powers plus 1 feat and a spell.

[Tarth]

Rabbiteconomist wrote:

Tarth wrote:

Rabbiteconomist wrote:

claudekennilol wrote:

I would let them stack. Others opinions may vary. Paizo has been very silent about stacking different size-altering abilities.

For what its worth, on the PFS hunter pregen, it has that Improved Natural Attack (which is what I assume you meant by 'imp natural weapon') stacks with Strong Jaw (which is a spell that increase a natural weapon's size) and has for the tactics for the hunter that they work.

But I the beast totem claws that I see have a base damage of 1d6.. Which would give you a net total of 3d6.

At 10th, the beast totem greater ability bumps to 1d8 for medium sized.

It's actually 2x claw attack, I left it single for clarity. with power attack and Reckless abadon i'm doing 2x +18 | 4d6+15 and I have bite, too.

How do your fellow players and GM feel? Are they cheering you or asking about it because it's perceived as a balance issue? What you have done is fairly simple and fair. Normal progression of rage powers plus 1 feat and a spell.

We haven't started playing yet; The campaign starts saturday. I wanted to make sure my game math was right before I shot the build over to my DM. I like to find and get rulings on any potential issues before play starts. nothing kills the mood like the sound of pages being flipped as some one says "let me see if that's right..."

[claudekennilol]

Yeah, it's all right. It's pretty standard for pouncing barbarians. Are you starting at lvl 10?