how does constrict work on a snake AnC?


Rules Questions


so i plan on having a hunter with a snake(constrictor)animal companion, and was wondering how the constrict ability works with greater grapple?

hunter would take eye for talent so he would be able to have the snake at int 3 starting out.

planing for for 10 th level
feats for the snake would be power attack ,IUS, improved grapple , and greater grapple .
snakes str would be 38.
23 nat ,+ 4 animal focus, +3 animal companion level bonus , + 8 animal growth.

i would do bite 1d6 +30 ( 21 str , 9 powerattack), then make a grapple and if i grapple i do 1d6 +23 ( 14 str , 9 power attack ).

then next round i could make 2 grapple checks doing bite and constrict dmg on both of them?


just giving this a bump.
so many factors to figure out was hopping for wisdom from the rules sages.

The Exchange

My Ranger uses an Eye-For-Talent Constrictor as well. Aiming for Greater Grapple eventually and took Snake Style early on.

I'm pretty sure Power Attack does not apply to constrict, as there is no attack roll required.


constrict:
*A creature with this special attack can crush an opponent, dealing bludgeoning damage, when it makes a successful grapple check (in addition to any other effects caused by a successful check, including additional damage). The amount of damage is given in the creature's entry and is typically equal to the amount of damage caused by the creature's melee attack.

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i would do bite 1d6 +30 ( 21 str , 9 powerattack), then make a grapple and if i grapple i do 1d6 +23 ( 14 str , 9 power attack ).

then next round i could make 2 grapple checks doing bite and constrict dmg on both of them?

I'm likewise skeptical of power attacks applicability on a combat manuver check. The grapple typically does the same damage as the bite, so that should be at +21 (1.5x str) to damage as well. Otherwise the math looks right

The snake can attempt to

grapple to deal damage or attempt to grapple to pin twice in any combination in a round. get something completely helpless THEN eat it should be pretty natural for a constrictor snake.

Ideally with the creature standing next to it it should go

R 1: Bite , bite hits, attempt to grapple, grapple succeeds constrict, grapple to pin, pin succeeds constrict
R 2: Bite + Constrict, Bite + Constrict

I wouldn't play this if there's another grappler in your group, it will make them look bad :).

Minor point: You can't take power attack at level 1 because Mr Slinky doesn't have a BAB of +1 at that level. Improved unarmed strike doesn't have any requirements though.

Get a wand of mage armor, Mr Slinky will be the target of a lot of attacks.

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