Battle Focuses Information Question

[KOTC WxCougar]

I am trying to puzzle out the various battle focuses and how the pluses interact with the different orisons (and what orison leveling is doing as well).

My question is, does anyone have a place that explains this? Thanks.

[sspitfire1]

Nope, but now that you have asked I suspect someone will put it together. Long story short, its basically like armor matching, only for Orisons.

[Ryan Dancey]

Foci

Acoyte's Battle Focus:
Tier 1 Battle Focus; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Battle (+1), Blessed (+2), War (+3)

Disciple's Battle Focus
Tier 2 Battle Focus; grants keywords at all upgrades: Masterwork; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Battle (+1), Blessed (+2), War (+3)

Priest's Battle Focus
Tier 3 Battle Focus; grants keywords at all upgrades: Avatar, Masterwork; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Battle (+1), Blessed (+2), War (+3)

Acolyte's Elemental Focus
Tier 1 Elemental Focus; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Elemental (+1), Blessed (+2), Planar (+3)

Disciple's Elemental Focus
Tier 2 Elemental Focus; grants keywords at all upgrades: Masterwork; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Elemental (+1), Blessed (+2), Planar (+3)

Priest's Elemental Focus
Tier 3 Elemental Focus; grants keywords at all upgrades: Avatar, Masterwork; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Elemental (+1), Blessed (+2), Planar (+3)

Acolyte's Occult Focus
Tier 1 Occult Focus; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Occult (+1), Blessed (+2), Enigmatic (+3)

Disciple's Occult Focus
Tier 2 Occult Focus; grants keywords at all upgrades: Masterwork; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Occult (+1), Blessed (+2), Enigmatic (+3)

Priest's Occult Focus
Tier 3 Occult Focus; grants keywords at all upgrades: Avatar, Masterwork; grants keywords based on upgrade: Divine (+0), Occult (+1), Blessed (+2), Enigmatic (+3)

Orisons

Strength Surge
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Agile Feet
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Dispelling Touch
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Bleeding Touch
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Battle Rage
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Destructive Smite
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Razing Smite
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Resistance
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Fire Bolt
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Guidance
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Icicle
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Virtue
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Bless
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Holy Lance
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Lightning Arc
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Minor Cure
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Augur
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Defending Weapon
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Dazing Touch
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Doom
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Inspiring Word
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Liberation
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Bane
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Touch of Darkness
Keywords: Divine/Occult/Blessed/Masterwork/Enigmatic/Avatar, Artifact

Agile Feet
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Resistance
Keywords: Divine/Battle/Blessed/Masterwork/War/Avatar, Artifact

Virtue
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

Minor Cure
Keywords: Divine/Elemental/Blessed/Masterwork/Planar/Avatar, Artifact

[KOTC WxCougar]

Wow, thanks Ryan! That does help quite a bit. What benefits do leveling the orisons have?

[Stephen Cheney]

Orisons works like cantrips and physical attacks: more keywords matched between action and weapon means more base damage and more effect power. Ranking up an action without improving your focus is like improving your focus without ranking up your action: both need to have the same keywords to get the benefit.

For the damaging orisons, you should see an obvious benefit in the form of more damage as you improve your rank and focus. For the buffing ones, generally the duration of the buff will improve by 10% of the base duration every time you match a new keyword (relative to the Effect Protection of the target). A few things, like healing, aren't yet hooked into effect power, so unfortunately ranking up Minor Cure doesn't do anything yet.

The three types of orisons for the three types of foci should have three different colors in their icon background (I don't remember what they are off the top of my head). So if you have a Battle focus and pick one of the orisons off the top of Ryan's list above (that all get the Battle keyword), you can easily find the others by matching the color of its background.

[Giorgo]

Stephen Cheney wrote:

The three types of orisons for the three types of foci should have three different colors in their icon background (I don't remember what they are off the top of my head). So if you have a Battle focus and pick one of the orisons off the top of Ryan's list above (that all get the Battle keyword), you can easily find the others by matching the color of its background.

When you find out, can you please let Dayzk know so he can add it to his reference doc along with the combat and terrain symbols? :)

[KOTC WxCougar]

Thanks Stephan for the explanation!

[Caldeathe Baequiannia]

Ryan Dancey wrote:

Foci

Addedd to PFO Wiki

[<Tavernhold> Locke]

A little transparency should be added for spells. While this understanding is present for the Osirons and cantrips. I do not find "official" information about spells until after XP is spent and then one learns if there is significant overlap between domain and the spell, or even what the spell does or stamina/power used. I expect Nihimon will collect this and post it so it will not be issue for future players.

If this could be published, then

Caldeathe Baequiannia could wrote:

Addedd to PFO Wiki

[Guurzak]

Complete spell data is included in the official data spreadsheet published on the Google drive. Visit http://tinyurl.com/pfodrive and open "copy of PFO Wiki - official data".

[<Tavernhold> Locke]

Seems I need to set up account with google and agree to tracking to access that data. But thank you for the link. Others may find it of issue.

I really do appreciate the work that has been done in pulling these things together. Right now I have issues with tracking that may go away. I do appreciate what you have done.

[<Tavernhold> Locke]

I created new Google identity and accessed the link to find:

This file is empty.

[Nihimon]

You should not need to be logged into Google to access the folder:

Pathfinder Online (Public)

[Neadenil Edam]

Basically battle focuses are like wands and staffs. After the basic +0 ones where all spells work equally well on any type of focus, the orison must be matched to the right type of focus (battle/elemental/occult) to get optimal effect.

It's pretty straightforward, once you get above +0 focuses, the second keyword in the orion is the type of focus you need to use with it.

Also +1 focuses need Orisons trained to 2. +2 focuses need orisons trained to 3.