I don't think that word means what you think it does.
This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.
Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.
Rinse, cycle, repeat.
I not sure this has anything to do with the protests or race. People target cops for violent actions some times. It said the shooter also shot himself so he could be a totally unrelated tragedy. That's not to say that you are not right magus about police and race in the US
The New York Post article on it gives a lot more detail.
Pretty much? By all evidence, this was to do with the protests and very much about race.
Assuming the Post article is correct, I tend to disagree with your conclusion. The line that strikes me is "The gunman was a fugitive who had just murdered his girlfriend in Baltimore Saturday morning". That being the case, it sounds to me like this guy chose 'suicide by cop' and tried to make himself into a martyr/hero by claiming his actions were to avenge Mr. Garner. He wanted to go out in a blaze of glory.
The New York Post is for entertainment purposes only, and is not to be taken literally.
rec·i·proc·i·ty
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noun
noun: reciprocity
the practice of exchanging things with others for mutual benefit, especially privileges granted by one country or organization to another.
People who suicide by cop don't tend to run from the police, and they don't shoot themselves.
Shooting oneself is plain old suicide; suicide by cop requires getting the police to shoot you.
That ignores the main point, but knock yourself out.
The New York Post is for entertainment purposes only, and is not to be taken literally.
Eh, doesn't matter at this point, probably. It's all over the web as the narrative of what happened. The narrative has even made its way onto NBC and will probably hit all of the major stations soon enough.
I'm willing to bet this will be the official narrative to some degree when it's done.
That ignores the main point, but knock yourself out.
Unless the police back it, your main point is irrelevant to the outcome of this one. I really can't comment on your main point until I see how the police are going to play it.
Pretty much? By all evidence, this was to do with the protests and very much about race.
Please reference the evidence you speak of.
I read both articles, and I saw ZERO evidence.
What evidence are you talking about?
When did he reference the Garner case?
Your right he is did this as a statement. This is a sad day and has put this whole mess further behind then ever.
My money is on explode, and not in a good way.
According to CNN, current rhetoric is that the cops were assassinated but CNN has been called out for one of their commentators saying Sharpton wanted this.
My concern right now is that the NYPD and their unilateral supporters are going to use this as an excuse to continue to brutalize, harass and murder men of color in this city.
This thing is quite literally the last thing that we need right now.
*SMH*
"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.
Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.
Rinse, cycle, repeat.
More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.
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More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject."Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.
Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.
Rinse, cycle, repeat.
But that's what the underlying complaint is - people assuming that Black men are violent, and therefore, force is used against them more.
I'm just going to ask, based on your previous postings and the hatred you have toward this country and its countrymen, and I want an honest yes or no answer. Do you believe these execution-style killings were justified?
If thejeff or Freehold DM asked me that question I'd be inclined to give THEM an honest answer since while we dont agree on everything they at least approach our discussions with an attempt at respect and empathy.
So yeah, no "honest" answer for you there Fergurg.
As I said on the Book of Faces...
Bad enough that anyone would have to come out and condemn this idiocy, but then he has to crap on my home town's rep, as well. Then, on top of that, people will link this to the protests, while tensions are already escalated as it is. Invoking the Daily Show isn't enough to convey the contempt for what has transpired. but let's be redundantly blunt - that wasn't helping, and his choice of targets couldn't be worse.
Of course, I'm used to individual bad actors being used to tar the whole group. I expect an inevitable storm of excrement from the usual right wing echo chambers.
Associated Press confirms New York Post information, provides details that makes it worse.
There's no way not to connect this to the protests at this point, considering the hashtags used. And given his post, it sounds like he wasn't done killing yet; he only got half his targets.
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So I will assume that the answer is "yes" until you say otherwise, and will treat you accordingly.More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject."Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.
Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.
Rinse, cycle, repeat.
But that's what the underlying complaint is - people assuming that Black men are violent, and therefore, force is used against them more.
I'm just going to ask, based on your previous postings and the hatred you have toward this country and its countrymen, and I want an honest yes or no answer. Do you believe these execution-style killings were justified?
If thejeff or Freehold DM asked me that question I'd be inclined to give THEM an honest answer since while we dont agree on everything they at least approach our discussions with an attempt at respect and empathy.
So yeah, no "honest" answer for you there Fergurg.
You already had your mind made up about how you were going to treat me there Furg.
You pretty much ignored EVERYTHING else that I said to go after my expression of frustration with this country and my countrymen. But you're just entitled enough to think that I OWE YOU some sort of explanation of that frustration. That my frustration somehow makes me dangerous or evil or everything that you need to believe that I am.
Comply. Comply. Comply.
I said that over and over again. Comply not out of respect for the law but because they have guns and dont like your skin color and they will KILL YOU if you dont.
But to you I'm not a frustrated and angry father.
I'm just some irrational, angry stereotype of a black guy.
Your concern for my actual opinion is disingenuous and insulting. Talk to me about the fear that I feel for myself and my child as an unarmed civilian having to worry about both criminals AND the police who are supposed to be protecting us from them THEN we can have an "honest" conversation.
I understand that as a man, there are certain things that I don't have to worry about or concern myself with that a woman has to place near or at the top of her concern list. Sexual Assault, unwanted harassing behavior, etc.
You are the guy who is basically saying: hey don't wear provocative clothing and maybe you wont get raped.
Or to be more accurate: Hey stop being black and maybe you wont get harassed and murdered.
Yeah Furg. Youre THAT guy.
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As many a wise person on these threads has said:
Flag it and move on.
There's no way not to connect this to the protests at this point, considering the hashtags used. And given his post, it sounds like he wasn't done killing yet; he only got half his targets.
If the connection to protesting against racism and police abuse of power is "#RIPErivGardner", I'm not willing to accept that he is anymore representative of the protesting then he is of representing Conney Island (one of his other hashtags).
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