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Hey all, this has been discussed elsewhere but no one has yet referenced any RAW that I've seen.
Where is the rule stating one cannot apply a template to a called creature, such as one brought to the player via Planar Binding? Obviously some templates would render the creature invalid for a binding because it could change their type, but others do not.
This seems a like a very abuseable loophole if no rule exists. And while it's easily remedied in home games with a flat house rule (i.e. no templates except half-fiend/celestial or fiendish/celestial) it could be a problem in PFS where RAW is king.
I'm looking for a citation here, not a discussion, as I need something concrete to point to at the table. I've done a lot of searching but my guess is there's a very general rule somewhere about templates that doesn't specifically call out summoning/binding, which is why I am not finding it.
Again, I totally get this is easily remedied by some common sense and RAI in home games, but it could be an issue in PFS.
Thanks in advance!
About the most that I see is that Planar Binding has the language "The kind of creature to be bound must be known and stated. If you want to summon a specific individual..." - I don't see that a template is part of the "Kind" of a creature, so you'd have to know the specific name of a templated creature in order to call it.
Pathfinder's rules don't work that way- you can't do something unless the rules (or common sense, in the event of, say, breathing or going to the bathroom) say you can. "Ain't no rule" means you can't do it, not that you can.
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Pathfinder's rules don't work that way- you can't do something unless the rules (or common sense, in the event of, say, breathing or going to the bathroom) say you can. "Ain't no rule" means you can't do it, not that you can.
You can apply a template to a creature. This is a thing you're allowed to do. And when you're calling it, the template changes its nature in a way that can be described, such as "Nightmare Quasit" or "Fiendish Minotaur."
When you cannot apply a template to something the rules specifically call it out.
Example: "Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature."
Source: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Transmutation-Polymorph
So, if your answer is "I don't know where the rules say you cannot apply a template to a called creature," then please move on. That's my specific question. I am not here to debate what I can or cannot do if there is no rule stating a template cannot be applied. That is irrelevant to my core question.
I apologize if I confused anyone. I was merely pointing out that the lack of a rule here could cause headaches in PFS. I agree with the sentiment that most DMs in home games would flatly disallow this unless specifically allowed somewhere in the rules (as with fiendish/celestial creatures).