Blade of the Sword-Saint Unarmed Damage Pricing

[Saker]

I notice the weapon is a bit pricey. It's a +5 weapon that costs 75000 + 350 for material and masterwork. A +5 weapon is normally 50000. There appears to be either another +1 added making it 72000 and an additional 3000 OR it has a 1.5 multiplier added.

I don't see much difference between a normal +3 ki intensifying weapon. Katana is already a monk weapon. I'm guessing either the monk damage is another +1 and the 3000 is to treat as unarmed for purposes of using abilities requiring one hand free.

It's going to be that or the unarmed damage costs 1.5 which is very pricey and I can't think of any other mod that adds 1.5 to a weapon.

I guess I'm looking for a way to add monk unarmed damage to another weapon. In 3.5 there was the scorpion dagger +1 which costs 6000+ making the unarmed mod cost 4000.

I'm looking for insight how they priced this weapon.

[Nefreet]

A regular Katana is not a Monk weapon. It's just Deadly.

[Bob Bob Bob]

The only way to do it without having to make an argument is to make a +3 ki intensifying <whatever> that blah blah blah all that stuff you want. Essentially do a find and replace on "katana" with whatever weapon you want instead.

But sure, let's break it down. It's (at least) a +5 equivalent weapon, 300 for masterwork, 50 for the katana. Subtracting the katana and masterwork gives us 75,000 for the whole thing. If it's just a +5 equivalent weapon then the abilities you want cost 25,000, simple and easy. It can't be more than +2 equivalent (costs too little) but it could be +1 equivalent with an extra 3000 tacked on. But... those are basically the only two options and there is absolutely no way to determine which covers which part of what you want. So you either buy the whole package (at 25k or +1 and 3k) or you just ask the GM to price out what you want.

Also, you don't get unarmed damage from the weapon. You get to act as if you were unarmed (and had a hand free). I don't see anything saying to use your unarmed strike damage in place of the weapon's damage. Their example is Deflect and Snatch Arrows.

[Saker]

I'm a little late reading the reply, but I agree. It doesn't do unarmed damage. It just allows you to use deflect arrows and snatch arrows as if you were unarmed.

So, follow up question. Is there any other weapon in pathfinder that allows you to use the monk unarmed damage in place of the weapons normal damage? Brass Knuckles once allowed a monk to use his unarmed strike damage, but that was snatched away in ultimate equipment.

[Imbicatus]

Saker wrote:

I'm a little late reading the reply, but I agree. It doesn't do unarmed damage. It just allows you to use deflect arrows and snatch arrows as if you were unarmed.

So, follow up question. Is there any other weapon in pathfinder that allows you to use the monk unarmed damage in place of the weapons normal damage? Brass Knuckles once allowed a monk to use his unarmed strike damage, but that was snatched away in ultimate equipment.

Not really. Brawlers are the closest in that they get Close Combat Mastery with weapons in the close group, doing damage with them as level -5.