Metamagic rod + mythic fireball?


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I have a 10th level arcanist in my group that is mythic (3rd tier) and fireball is one of his mythic spells. He routinely uses a lesser rod of maximized to throw 100+ dmg fireballs.

Seems broken to me, is there something I'm missing?


No, that's mythic.
At least they aren't empowered too, or it could be even more.

Maybe he's forgetting that rods are 3/day?


No, he only does it 3 times a day, but thats about 150 points of damage to a big baddie even if he makes the ridiculous saves. Can't even throw fire immunity into it because he's an arcanist and can change it to frost by spending an arcane pool point.

Ok, live and learn :)


Heck, Augmented Fireball ignores Fire Immunity anyway.

Either have the enemies learn to counterspell, give them SR and hope he doesn't just break out one of the many, many anti-SR abilities in Mythic, or learn ways to work around it.


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Muddman72 wrote:

No, he only does it 3 times a day, but thats about 150 points of damage to a big baddie even if he makes the ridiculous saves. Can't even throw fire immunity into it because he's an arcanist and can change it to frost by spending an arcane pool point.

Ok, live and learn :)

I'm not familiar with any arcanist ability that allows that. Is he using metamagic to pull that off?


Ravingdork wrote:
Muddman72 wrote:

No, he only does it 3 times a day, but thats about 150 points of damage to a big baddie even if he makes the ridiculous saves. Can't even throw fire immunity into it because he's an arcanist and can change it to frost by spending an arcane pool point.

Ok, live and learn :)

I'm not familiar with any arcanist ability that allows that. Is he using metamagic to pull that off?

School Understanding, Admixture school would be my guess.


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Or perhaps metamixing with the Elemental Spell metamagic feat?


School understanding is the simpler and cheaper way to go about it.


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I'm not so sure T.D. Even if your GM allows you to choose a Focused school rather than a traditional one, it's still all Charisma-based, which isn't strictly ideal for many arcanists. Even if you're GM allows it and you don't mind being a little MAD, it is still limited to Evocation spells only. With the metamagic feat(s) you can at least change the properties of any energy spell regardless of school.

I'd argue they're pretty equivalent.


Third option is that the Archmage gets an ability to do it-- Energy Conversion, available to our Arcanist 10/Archmage 3.

He's still three tiers out from Fireball solving the fire immunity problem all on his own, but that'll happen eventually.


Be glad he's blasting instead of casting mythic cloudkill.


He has the elemental bloodline arcana:

Bloodline Arcana: Whenever you cast a spell that deals energy damage, you can change the type of damage to match the type of your bloodline. This also changes the spell's type to match the type of your bloodline.

His just so happens to be water/cold.

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