Another Pummeling Style question.

[Ogren]

Can a Brawler using Pummeling Style use a Trip, Sunder, or Disarm Combat Maneuver while using Pummeling Style?

PRD wrote:

Brawler's Flurry (Ex): Starting at 2nd level, a brawler can make a brawler's flurry as a full-attack action. When doing so, a brawler has the Two-Weapon Fighting feat when attacking with any combination of unarmed strikes, weapons from the close fighter weapon group, or weapons with the "monk" special feature. She does not need to use two different weapons to use this ability.

A brawler applies her full Strength modifier to her damage rolls for all attacks made with brawler's flurry, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand weapon or a weapon wielded in both hands. A brawler can substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of brawler's flurry. A brawler with natural weapons can't use such weapons as part of brawler's flurry, nor can she make natural weapon attacks in addition to her brawler's flurry attacks.

At 8th level, the brawler gains use of the Improved Two-Weapon Fighting feat when using brawler's flurry. At 15th level, she gains use of the Greater Two-Weapon Fighting feat when using brawler's flurry.

PRD wrote:

As a full-round action, you can pool all your attack potential in one devastating punch. Make a number of rolls equal to the number of attacks you can make with a full attack or a flurry of blows (your choice) with the normal attack bonus for each attack. For each roll that is a hit, you deal the normal amount of damage, adding it to any damage the attack has already dealt from previous rolls (if any). If any of the attack rolls are critical threats, make one confirmation roll for the entire attack at your highest base attack bonus. If it succeeds, the entire attack is a confirmed critical hit.

Assuming that I can use a Combat Maneuver as part of my Pummeling Style attack. If I were to roll a Natural 20 would I be allowed to confirm that roll to make my entire attack a critical even though I can't technically crit on a Trip or Disarm attempt?

[Undone]

Yes but if you do so you do zero damage for the entire attack. A Maneuver eats one of your attacks. You only get 1 attack with pummeling style. Giving up 1 gives up it all.

[claudekennilol]

@Undone, what are you saying? That at level 2 if if he flurries, that instead of getting 2 attacks he would only get 1 attack if he substituted 1 of the attacks with a maneuver? If that's what you're saying you need to re-read the class ability.

You cannot crit with a combat maneuver, you can only auto-succeed. So no, as it's currently worded you would not be allowed to roll a confirmation roll to crit with the rest of your attacks.

[Undone]

claudekennilol wrote:

@Undone, what are you saying? That at level 2 if if he flurries, that instead of getting 2 attacks he would only get 1 attack if he substituted 1 of the attacks with a maneuver? If that's what you're saying you need to re-read the class ability.

You cannot crit with a combat maneuver, you can only auto-succeed. So no, as it's currently worded you would not be allowed to roll a confirmation roll to crit with the rest of your attacks.

No I'm saying when you use pummeling style you get multiple rolls but it's all one attack. If you elect to use pummeling style you lose all damage for the turn.

It doesn't matter if you crit or not because comboing Pummeling style with combat maneuvers is a bad choice because there is only 1 attack to give up. It doesn't crit because it effects nothing.

If you want to use a pummeling style with a combat maneuver the style has a feat for that, pummeling bully.