Summon Evil Monster

[minoritarian]

Champions of Corruption has the Summon Evil Monster feat in it.

One of the new options at SMVI is to summon an efreet. Am I missing something or is that three wishes as many times as you can cast summon monster 6? So a summoner is able to not unreasonable get 33 wishes a day at level 11 (20 starting charisma plus level boosts plus headband x3).

Have I missed something where an efreet can't use its wish SLA if summoned?

[Bob Bob Bob]

Double Whammy! First from Summon Monster:

Summon Monster wrote:

Creatures summoned using this spell cannot use spells or spell-like abilities that duplicate spells with expensive material components (such as wish).

Also from the spell school rules:

Conjuration (summoning) wrote:

Summoning: a summoning spell instantly brings a creature or object to a place you designate. When the spell ends or is dispelled, a summoned creature is instantly sent back to where it came from, but a summoned object is not sent back unless the spell description specifically indicates this. A summoned creature also goes away if it is killed or if its hit points drop to 0 or lower, but it is not really dead. It takes 24 hours for the creature to reform, during which time it can't be summoned again.

When the spell that summoned a creature ends and the creature disappears, all the spells it has cast expire. A summoned creature cannot use any innate summoning abilities it may have.

So even if you could get past the limitation of Summon Monster, all of their spells wink out when they leave.

[minoritarian]

Phew. It was my morning reading and I thought it was too ridiculous to be true. Thanks.

[Ipslore the Red]

Bob Bob Bob wrote:

Double Whammy! First from Summon Monster:

Summon Monster wrote:

Creatures summoned using this spell cannot use spells or spell-like abilities that duplicate spells with expensive material components (such as wish).

Also from the spell school rules:

Conjuration (summoning) wrote:

Summoning: a summoning spell instantly brings a creature or object to a place you designate. When the spell ends or is dispelled, a summoned creature is instantly sent back to where it came from, but a summoned object is not sent back unless the spell description specifically indicates this. A summoned creature also goes away if it is killed or if its hit points drop to 0 or lower, but it is not really dead. It takes 24 hours for the creature to reform, during which time it can't be summoned again.

When the spell that summoned a creature ends and the creature disappears, all the spells it has cast expire. A summoned creature cannot use any innate summoning abilities it may have.

So even if you could get past the limitation of Summon Monster, all of their spells wink out when they leave.

The first part is accurate, the second isn't always accurate. Spells with a duration of instant don't wink out, since they already happened. If the wish duplicated a spell with an ongoing duration, it would wink out. If not, the wish would remain.

...Of course, since the first part still applies, the distinction is academic.