burkoJames
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Ok, Im sure similar questions have been asked before and if the specific question I have has been answered I apologize, but I cant find one that answers a detail that came up. when I was reading the archetype stackingrules i noticed this (emphasis mine and important):
...none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the base class as another alternate class feature
And it got me thinking. Some back story: My Snakebite Striker Brawler 1/Acrobat Rouge 1 has always been described as someone who could not master the Ki Manipulation aspects on being a monk, and became a brawler instead. Then ACGO came out, and they had an archetype which was described as precisely that. So naturally I want to take it when I hit Brawler 2 (When it kicks in). But there is one problem. Namely that Snakebite Striker gets rid of Martial Flexibility.
But the bolded section of the stacking rules comes into play. The text of the offending Winding Path Renegade entry is thus:
At 4th level, a winding path renegade
can use her martial flexibility ability to gain the benefits
of certain monk abilities as well as combat feats. Each
ability counts as one combat feat for this purpose, and
the winding path renegade is treated as a monk of a level
equal to her brawler level for determining the effects of
these abilities. The winding path renegade gains access
to these abilities at the levels listed on the Monk Moves
table below. She does not gain a ki pool, and can’t use
powers that require ki. The winding path renegade must
be wearing light or no armor to benefit from this ability.
This ability replaces AC bonus.
I started seeing it like this. I am not altering Martial Flexibility as another class feature. It does not state it alters martial flexibility, it states it replaces the AC bonus.
Is this loophole sound? Or have I just gone way to long without sleep?
As a note, I don't care abut the AC bonus being swapped for a useless ability as I use a shield which negates the AC bonus's normal functioning
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No you are not altering Martial Flexibility. You are gaining a new class ability called Path Renegade. Think of Path Renegade as Improved Martial Flexibility. Just like Improved Uncanny Dodge does not alter Uncanny Dodge, Path Renegade does not alter Martial Flexibility.
Bottom line, you alter / replace a feature when the archetype says you do, otherwise you don't.