Racial traits.


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Are Racial traits the same thing as Race traits?

I've been reading through the Guide to organized play, and it says that two traits may be selected, and that of those two, one trait can be taken from Race traits. But the advance race guide had a list of Racial traits.

I have been using all of the listed Race traits on my characters thus far, and no GMs have said anything. I wanted to double check and see if I needed to adjust my characters to make them legal or not.

Basically, the Darkvision, medium creature size, and damage resistance traits.

Those are different from say, Libery's Edge trait for Captains blade correct?

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No they are not the same. Dev's have even mentioned that they regret using such close language for those two things. It's caused a lot of confusion.
Racial traits would be better called racial "features" as they are the features of your race: Low light vision, spell-likes, all the things you automatically gain from the race you chose.
Race Traits are actual Traits. Their type is Race, kind of like Combat Traits, Campaign Traits, Religion Traits, etc.
So yes, you seem to be using them separately and correctly.

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Thanks for the confirmation, I just wanted to double check.

5/5 5/55/5 *** Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg

I disagree on the "correctly" part.

It seems to me you used stuff from chapter 4 of the Advanced Race Guide. These are not the race traits you are supposed to take.
The Advanced Race Guide doesn't have any traits in it. You find those in the Advanced Players Guide and race books, such as "Blood of [Fiends, Angels, Elements]" or "[Race] of Golarion".

4/5 ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Maryland—Hagerstown

Wyntir wrote:

Are Racial traits the same thing as Race traits?

I've been reading through the Guide to organized play, and it says that two traits may be selected, and that of those two, one trait can be taken from Race traits. But the advance race guide had a list of Racial traits.

I have been using all of the listed Race traits on my characters thus far, and no GMs have said anything. I wanted to double check and see if I needed to adjust my characters to make them legal or not.

Basically, the Darkvision, medium creature size, and damage resistance traits.

Those are different from say, Libery's Edge trait for Captains blade correct?

yes, the first you listed are racial traits that which are more like features of the race you are playing as. there are alternate racial traits(features) that can give you a bonus. but those are considered racial bonuses

the second list are just traits you are considered to have obtained through life and experience. if they are give any number bonuses, those are considered trait bonuses.

that being said trait and racial bonuses can stack in most cases

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