P1e Migration to P2e--Question about Feats


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Good morning everyone,

I'm a pathfinder 1e GM starting a game of 2e. My group and I are building characters with pencil-and-paper in order to learn how character generation works and we had a question about how all these different feats get distributed.

One of my players is an Anadi Rogue Thief with Polychromatic Heritage and the Ruins Delver Background.

For Ancestry Feats and Abilities, she as:
Heritage: Impressive Performance Feat (from the Polychromatic Background)
Feat 1st: Skitter Talk (from the Anadi Ancesty)

For Class Feats and Abilities, she has:
Feature 1st: Sneak Attack (for being a Rogue)
Feature 1st: Surprise Attack (for being a Rogue)
Feat 1st: Tumble Behind (from her Feat Selection)

For Skill Feats, we didn't know exactly how to do this one. Based on my own understanding, Skill Feat Background is supposed to come from her Background selection (Ruin Delver), and then she gets a Skill Feat for being a Level 1 Rogue that goes in the Bonus column. Is that correct?

Thanks for reading this through and for any input you have to offer!


Bagronk wrote:
For Skill Feats, we didn't know exactly how to do this one. Based on my own understanding, Skill Feat Background is supposed to come from her Background selection (Ruin Delver), and then she gets a Skill Feat for being a Level 1 Rogue that goes in the Bonus column. Is that correct?

Yes. Most Background choices will give a skill trained proficiency and a skill feat for that skill. Not all of them do, but most.

Rogue gets extra skill feats at levels that most other characters don't - such as 1st level. The standard character sheets don't handle that well. You may eventually have to write them in the margins or something like that.


breithauptclan wrote:
The standard character sheets don't handle that well. You may eventually have to write them in the margins or something like that.

The class-specific character sheets from the Pathfinder Character Sheets Pack has plenty of space for Rogue feats.


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If you guys ever get tired of pencil and paper character creation, I highly recommend the Pathbuilder 2e app for Android. They also have a website.

Makes character building a breeze.


Bagronk wrote:

Good morning everyone,

I'm a pathfinder 1e GM starting a game of 2e. My group and I are building characters with pencil-and-paper in order to learn how character generation works and we had a question about how all these different feats get distributed.

Ravingdork wrote:

If you guys ever get tired of pencil and paper character creation, I highly recommend the Pathbuilder 2e app for Android. They also have a website.

Makes character building a breeze.

To follow up on what RavingDork said, unlike D&D 3.5 or PF1, PF2 numbers are mostly driven by level and your proficiency rating (Untrained, Trained, Expert, Master, Legend) in that thing, and then you add the appropriate ability modifier. So character choices you make rarely change the numbers, meaning things are consistent in how they are calculated. And the options that do change how something is calculated usually still follow level and proficiency, they just let you change what ability modifier you use, or let you substitute one specific usage of a skill for a specific action with another skill.

So, using an app like Pathbuilder honestly doesn't hurt the way it could in PF1 where there were so many different things that change your stats in something that it was hard to keep track of and you couldn't figure out how the app arrived at the number it did. In PF2, it's all pretty transparent. At least IMO.


Thank you, everyone, for the responses! I appreciate your feedback and suggestions!

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