Did we play Sunken Treasure correctly?


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Dark Archive

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

My brother and I were playing Sunken Treasure over the weekend – a 2 player game with Valeros and Lem. We managed to defeat Kelizar on the very last blessing. We high fived, divied up our loot. But afterward I wondered if we played the scenario right.

Lem encountered Kelizar early in the game. We randomly determined that the henchman would be banished from the beach. We took out the Shipwreck there, shuffled the remaining cards, meaning we’d have to work through the entire deck to close the location. We think we did that right.

Then Lem took on Kelizar. Valeros was able to temporarily close the Sea Caves, and we threw in a lot in to support Lem. Kelizar fled to either the Beach or the Wishing Well. I think we did that right as well.

With Kelizar defeated, we then banished all the cards from the Harbour and closed the location. Was that right? We were assuming that the location was permanently closed after defeating the villain – but did we misinterpret? Did we also need to meet the ‘when closing’ conditions (or push through the remainder of the deck) in the Sunken Treasure scenario to close the Harbour?

Also, in our final encounter with Kelizar, we had him pinned down in the wishing well. All the other locations were closed, and Kelizar was the last card in the location deck. We burned everything we had to defeat him. But the Scenario card says, “If Kelizar is defeated and cannot escape, banish Kelizar. You win the scenario only when all locations are permanently closed” So should Valeros have also been required to meet the ‘When Closing’ condition for the Wishing Well after defeating Kelizar for us to win the scenaro?

Thanks for any insight!

Grand Lodge

S&S Rulebook pg 16 wrote:
If You Defeat the Villain, Close the Villain's Location. You do not need to fulfill the When Closing requirement.

You did it right. Unless the villain has some power that does not allow him to be defeated except under certain circumstances.


Yup. Looks good to me. When you defeat the villain the you don't need to fulfill the When Closing requirement, but you do need to apply the "When Permanently Closed" effect.

In the first encounter with Kelizar, you would take a blessing from the box to shuffle with Kelizar. One of the two cards randomly goes to the Beach, one goes to the Wishing Well.

And in the last encounter, the location would have been closed and he would have been banished. That would have left every location closed and you'd win.

Dark Archive

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

Theryon and Hawkmoon - thanks for the swift responses. Whew! And Hawkmoon - we did take the blessing from the box to ramndomly determine which location Kelizar ended up in (poor Lem ended up facing him twice at the Wishing Well with 5 Pirate Shade Haunts dogging him before Valeros came along to fight the dragon).

Good to know we won honestly. That was a nailbiter!


Congrats on the win.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Where you would not have won is if you had temporarily closed a location and left the villain nowhere to escape. The villain would have been defeated and the location where you encountered him would have been closed but the location which was temporarily closed would still need to be closed on another turn to win the scenario.

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