Arcane Deed and multiclassed magus / swashbuckler


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Lantern Lodge

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So...

For obvious reasons, a magus may want to take a 1 level dip into swashbuckler. However, this presents an interesting situation: Two pools of resources powering the same abilities... or do they?

Assuming you have Flamboyant Arcana, Arcane Deed: Bleeding Wound, and an 1 level dip into swashbuckler, would you be able to use your panache point for Bleeding Wound (Bleeding wound is just an example)? How about if I had Arcane Deed: Precise Strike, and I used all my arcane pool points but still had my panache point from the level dip, would I still get the extra damage?

Thanks in advance!

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They don't interface at all. One ability is the panache class feature, the other allows you to activate deeds by spending panache from your arcane pool. If you were to multiclass swashbuckler / magus, the two pools would stay separate and use the class level of either class to determine their effectiveness.

That said, sources of precision damage stack, so having precise strike from both classes would stack the damage. You would just need to pay 1 point from each resource pool in order to double the damage bonus.

Lantern Lodge

So nothing at all? I'm a little confused by the wording used then:

Flamboyant Arcana wrote:
A magus gains the derring-do and opportune parry and riposte deeds from the swashbuckler's list of deeds. The magus can spend points from his arcane pool as panache points to use these deeds and any other deeds he gains from the deed arcana, but he cannot use points from his arcane pool to use deeds from other classes or those gained by feats, nor can he regain points to his arcane pool as a swashbuckler would regain panache points. Effects that add to, reduce the cost of, or otherwise affect panache or grit don't affect the arcane pool of a magus with this arcana. (Note that the wording of the deeds has been altered simply to replace "swashbuckler" with "magus" for convenience and clarity.)

Can meaning optional, and as meaning that for the purposes of these abilities his arcane pool points are considered to be panache points, which he has some of already. It does add the you cannot use arcane pool points to fuel abilities from other classes clause, but as worded that's a way one street: No arcane pool points usage to fuel deeds gained from anywhere else. It doesn't block the use of the panache points he has to fuel the deeds he gained as a magus.

Now, I don't have the book, I borrowed it from a friend to read and then gave it back (finally got to read it!). Is there anything within the book that prevents swashbuckler panache from fueling magus deeds?

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