Greater Weapon of the Chosen and confirming crits


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Grand Lodge

Advanced Class Guide wrote:

Greater Weapon of the Chosen (Combat)

Your deity guides your hand when you fight with her favored weapon.

Prerequisites: Improved Weapon of the Chosen†,
Weapon Focus with deity’s favored weapon, Weapon of the Chosen†, worship and receive spells from a deity.

Benefit: When you use your deity’s favored weapon to attempt a single attack with the attack action, you roll two dice for your attack roll and take the higher result. You do not need to use your Weapon of the Chosen feat to gain this feat’s benefit.

This doesn't have the caveat that some other "roll two dice" effects do where they say "if one dice rolls a critical threat, use the other to confirm it." So when rolling to confirm a critical would it be one or two dice?

Scarab Sages Modules Overlord

While this isn't an "official" answer, it is the answer I got when I asked Jason Bulmahn about this question. (And its the answer I would expect as a RAW reading).

Roll two dice on your attack, take the better of the two.

If that's a threat, you roll one new die as the confirmation roll.

This is because, as noted, GWotC doesn't say to take the second die roll as the confirmation roll, but a reroll is not (game mechanically) a "bonus" for purposes of what you add to a confirmation roll, so the confirmation roll does not also get to roll 2 dice.

Grand Lodge

That's what I figured it'd be, thanks.

Grand Lodge

I'm curious, this is still how I'd rule it, bit does anyone have a second opinion?


It's a straightforward reading of the rules. I wouldn't have even though to use the other die as I didn't know there were abilities that worked in such a way.

Grand Lodge

What's the difference between this and having a +20 for True Strike for both the initial attack roll and the confirmation?

Scarab Sages

True Strike is very limited in the times per day, and this can be done whenever you like.

Also, post errata, Owen's answer is the official answer.

Grand Lodge

Imbicatus wrote:

True Strike is very limited in the times per day, and this can be done whenever you like.

Also, post errata, Owen's answer is the official answer.

Ah, thanks. I didn't realize it had received any errata. That makes it much more straight forward.

Scarab Sages

ACG Errata document pg.5 wrote:

Page 150—In the Greater Weapon of the Chosen feat,

at the end of the Benefit section, add “As usual, the
reroll does not apply to any confirmation rolls.”

Grand Lodge

Imbicatus wrote:
ACG Errata document pg.5 wrote:

Page 150—In the Greater Weapon of the Chosen feat,

at the end of the Benefit section, add “As usual, the
reroll does not apply to any confirmation rolls.”

Yeah, I went and checked right after I saw your post, thanks.

Scarab Sages

No problem. I'm actually in favor of it not applying the second roll to the confirmation. I have played a monk with Perfect Strike, and I find I confirm more often when rolling a second die than I do when I have to take the lower roll of two for the confirmation.

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