Warpriest Battle Companions

[stoolpigeon87]

The Battle Companion abilities from the Blessings class feature for Warpriests is kind of wonky.

First, why does the Animal Blessing start at SNA 5 while the rest of them start at 4?

Also, a bunch of these abilities restrict the Type of creature you can summon, but the Summon X list doesn't have any creatures of that type for every level. What then? You can't summon multiple lower level creatures because of the wording of Battle Companion.

Example: Summon Nature's Ally has no summoning options at level 8 and 9 for Animals.

[LazarX]

Sure you've got creatures. Animals with either the celestial or infernal template are just about on every list. They count.

Your WarPriest of Iomedae can SO summon a celestial dinosaur if she wants.

[Undone]

The animal blessing is stronger early terrible terrible late. Early on it's higher level.

All blessings can only summon 1 thing.

The alignment domains can summon things with the template associated. The summons are awesome considering you can do it as a swift action.

[LazarX]

Undone wrote:

The animal blessing is stronger early terrible terrible late. Early on it's higher level.

All blessings can only summon 1 thing.

The alignment domains can summon things with the template associated. The summons are awesome considering you can do it as a swift action.

Not swift, but standard still rocks.

[Undone]

LazarX wrote:

Undone wrote:

The animal blessing is stronger early terrible terrible late. Early on it's higher level.

All blessings can only summon 1 thing.

The alignment domains can summon things with the template associated. The summons are awesome considering you can do it as a swift action.

Not swift, but standard still rocks.

With quicken blessing it is swift.

[claudekennilol]

Undone wrote:

The animal blessing is stronger early terrible terrible late. Early on it's higher level.

All blessings can only summon 1 thing.

The alignment domains can summon things with the template associated. The summons are awesome considering you can do it as a swift action.

I don't see any way to summon as swift action as summoning is a 1 round action. Blessings are normally a standard action unless noted--which the summon blessings say they act as the summon spell, and even the Quicken Blessing feat only turns a standard action blessing into a swift blessing.

[Undone]

claudekennilol wrote:

Undone wrote:

The animal blessing is stronger early terrible terrible late. Early on it's higher level.

All blessings can only summon 1 thing.

The alignment domains can summon things with the template associated. The summons are awesome considering you can do it as a swift action.

I don't see any way to summon as swift action as summoning is a 1 round action. Blessings are normally a standard action unless noted--which the summon blessings say they act as the summon spell, and even the Quicken Blessing feat only turns a standard action blessing into a swift blessing.

Oh what the heck? They removed making it a standard action from the final version. I feel tricked.

EDIT: Nope I was right, it doesn't explicitly say it's got the same casting time as a result it remains a standard action. It's not explicitly noted and as such is a standard/swift.

Quote:

Unless otherwise noted, using a blessing is a standard action.

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LazarX wrote:

Sure you've got creatures. Animals with either the celestial or infernal template are just about on every list. They count.

Your WarPriest of Iomedae can SO summon a celestial dinosaur if she wants.

While that would be awesome, Iomedae does not grant the Animal domain and thus a Warpriest of Iomedae could not select the Animal blessing.

Edit: Realized you're talking about the Good and Law blessing features; never mind, sorry.

[claudekennilol]

Undone wrote:

claudekennilol wrote:

Undone wrote:

The animal blessing is stronger early terrible terrible late. Early on it's higher level.

All blessings can only summon 1 thing.

The alignment domains can summon things with the template associated. The summons are awesome considering you can do it as a swift action.

I don't see any way to summon as swift action as summoning is a 1 round action. Blessings are normally a standard action unless noted--which the summon blessings say they act as the summon spell, and even the Quicken Blessing feat only turns a standard action blessing into a swift blessing.

Oh what the heck? They removed making it a standard action from the final version. I feel tricked.

EDIT: Nope I was right, it doesn't explicitly say it's got the same casting time as a result it remains a standard action. It's not explicitly noted and as such is a standard/swift.

Quote:

Unless otherwise noted, using a blessing is a standard action.

I'm saying it is noted. "This ability functions as <spell name>" is them noting it.

[Undone]

No, it's not. The casting time is a standard action as it was in play testing. They removed the standard action language from EVERY SINGLE BLOCK and placed it at the start of the section to save word count (They're even on record for doing this) unless IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE BLESSING it says "Full round, 1 Round, Swift action, or Move action" It is a standard.

[stoolpigeon87]

Are Blessings technically SLAs? I think they are actually Supernatural abilities considering that's what it says under Blessings and it has no different language under the Blessings that replicate spells.

Thoughts?

[Imbicatus]

No, they are supernatural abilities. This makes them more useful as there is less that can stop a SU ability than a SLA.

[Undone]

Imbicatus wrote:

No, they are supernatural abilities. This makes them more useful as there is less that can stop a SU ability than a SLA.

By my count antimagic fields are about it for SU.