Outsider-types in perspective

[Josh M.]

If you travel to the home plane of a type of Outsider(angels, devils, etc), does that creature lose the Outsider type, and/or does your character gain the Outsider type/subtype? Do Outsider-bane weapons function differently? Should they?

Think about it...

[Ipslore the Red]

No. They lose the extraplanar subtype on their home plane and you gain it off of your home plane, but outsiders remain outsiders and you remain a humanoid/native outsider. Outsiders aren't just from different planes- they're literally made from a plane, and their body and soul are the same unit. They have more differences from mortals than where they come from.

[Josh M.]

Ipslore the Red wrote:

No. They lose the extraplanar subtype on their home plane and you gain it off of your home plane, but outsiders remain outsiders and you remain a humanoid/native outsider. Outsiders aren't just from different planes- they're literally made from a plane, and their body and soul are the same unit. They have more differences from mortals than where they come from.

Thank you for the detailed response! I was unaware of most of that.

[Kazaan]

There are non-outsiders that are raised/live in other planes. They gain templates to reflect that they have been heavily exposed to the energies of these planes, but they are still whatever their regular type is. So a Celestial Wolf would be a Wolf that, instead of living on the Material Plane, lived on a Celestial Plane (any Good aligned plane). It absorbed the Good energy there and was changed, but it's still a Wolf; it isn't made of Good energy. So a Human traveling to Heaven would go from Humanoid(Human) to Humanoid(Human, Extraplanar). An Angel in Heaven would be an Outsider(Good, Lawful). If that Angel went to any other plane, Material, Hell, Limbo, wherever, it would become Outsider(Good, Lawful, Extraplanar). Likewise, a Celestial Wolf could be an Animal in Heaven, but becomes an Animal(Extraplanar) when it goes to any other plane.