Any Thoughts on Converting 5E Classes to Pathfinder?


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Specifically, I'm interested in the 5E Warlock... But, any conversion guidelines might be helpful.

Also, how much are 5E feats worth compared to PF feats? I'm guesstimating them at about the value of 2 PF feats. Any thoughts?

One of my goals would be to be able to convert from 5E to PF and from PF to 5E.


5e classes are going to be very troublesome to convert because they are designed around having abilities granted by the system and not the class themselves.

For example, a 5e warlock is designed to work with spring attack and can also do some combat maneuvers without spending resources to get them because they're granted by the system. They also get spells back with just a short rest instead of a full 8 hours.

In pathfinder terms that's a lot of free feats there.

I think your better off taking the abilities of the 5e warlock that you like and just trying add just those abilities to a close pathfinder class counterpart. Like putting something from the pact of the blade Warlock on to a Magus as an example.


Thank you, Thaine. That's very helpful.

I hadn't realized all that the 5E system assumes the characters have that PF characters don't because of system restrictions.

I guess that converting the other way would likewise increase the power of PF classes beyond design intentions since they'd be picking up all the stuff that PF requires a feat for that 5E gives for free to all.

Thank you very much!


Hi, everyone.

After playing a lot more 5E than Pathfinder, I'm planning to return to Pathfinder for a certain campaign that most of the material that I have is already in PF/3X format.

But, I'm still considering converting a few of the 5E classes to Pathfinder for a particular set of adventures that use the Pathfinder ruleset. After being on a 5E kick for a while, I'm feeling the draw to return to Pathfinder for the crunch. However, 5E seems to give characters things for free that Pathfinder charges a feat for.
Things such as:

• Weapon Expertise.
• Improved Unarmed Strike.
• Moving between attacks during a full attack (as well as full attack and move); basically Spring Attack, but better.
• No chance of arcane spell failure for armor worn (like Arcane Armor Training, but better).
• No opportunity attack for spell casting while threatened (Combat Casting, but better).
• No opportunity attack for combat maneuvers (such as Disarm, Trip, etc...).
• No confirmation roll for criticals (eliminates need for Critical Focus).
• Two Weapon Fighting works differently and is easier.

Have I missed any feats from the Pathfinder Core Rulebook that all 5E characters would have? Does anyone have a list of Pathfinder feats that all 5E characters would be assumed to have?

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