Cavalier and Supreme Charge - Am I reading this right?


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I've got a 20th level cavalier, order of the sword.

Mount strength is 34. Cavalier strength is 26, charisma is 25. +4 axiomatic lance. Spirited Charge. Knight's Challenge.

1d8 + 12 plus 2d6 lawful normally. On a charge, supreme charge = +200%, and spirited charge = +200% for a total of x5. Also add mount's strength to charge.

5d8 + 120 plus 2d6? 7d8 + 168 plus 2d6 on a critical hit?

And with knight's challenge, that 1d8+12 becomes 1d8+39. With the mount's strength, on a charge...

5d8 + 255? And 7d8+357 on a crit?

Just want to make sure I'm doing the math in the proper order.

Scarab Sages

Looks good. X5 damage on a standard attack, x7 on a crit. Challenge and STR bonuses from rider and mount (along with any other non-precision static bonuses like weapon enhancement) all multiplied.
The two hardest hitting single attacks in the game are both both mounted charges; either a Cavalier with Order of the Sword using Supreme Charge and Spirited Charge on a Challenge, or a Paladin using Spirited Charge and Litany of Righteousness on a Smite.

**EDIT**

Actually I'm coming up with different numbers... 39 x 7 should be 273, not 357... Order of the Sword adds the mounts STR mod on all charges so that should be part of the base that we're multiplying...

+12 (your STR x 1.5, lance counts as 2-handed) +12 (mount's STR) +4 (enhancement) +20 (challenge) = 48.

So your base damage on a charge is 1d8 + 48. Spirited Charge + Supreme Charge stacks to a x5 multiplier, which brings that to 5d8 + 240, crit stacks to a x7 multiplier for 7d8 + 336. And of course your extra 2d6 from Axiomatic.


Can't forget the extra 2d6! :) Thanks.

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