Ability damage, always require a save?

[lantzkev]

Are there any sources of abiity dmg/drain that happen without a save, or are they all tied to a save for the most part?

[RumpinRufus]

lantzkev wrote:

Are there any sources of abiity dmg/drain that happen without a save, or are they all tied to a save for the most part?

Nope, a Shadow has a touch attack (no save) for 1d6 strength damage.

[Caderyn]

Damage rarely has a save

Drain commonly has a save