Resurrection on people in Runeforge

[Splendor]

Could you cast Resurrection (or even True Resurrection) on some of the people who die in the runeforge?
Nelevetu Voan just died so he should be a valid target.
Ordikon isn't a construct he's mithral-clad. Once resurrected he wouldn't have any of the mithral and might be sane.
Jordimandus... maybe he would be different without the jubliex heart.
The Dead Ordikon's minion in J3.
Some of the body parts in the Ravenous Crypts should be targetable.

I also don't like the description from I3

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The body in the chair has been dead for well over 2 years, yet it looks as if it had only died a moment ago.

These are the remains of Vraxeris himself, magically preserved by Runeforge.

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attempts to raise Vraxeris from the dead automatically fail, though, for his soul has already been judged by Pharasma and has gone on to its final punishment.

He should be resurrectable.

[NobodysHome]

The Vraxeris clones should be interpreted as having died of old age, since it was a "congenital defect", and therefore aren't resurrectable. The origianl Vraxeris died well beyond the time limit of even True Resurrection.

So obviously it's a GM call, but my calls would be:
Nelevetu Voan: He just aged 10,000 years. Death by old age. Not resurrectable.

Ordikon or anyone else you kill: Definitely resurrectable, or even Speak with Deadable if you want to spare the expense. Remember that both Resurrection and True Resurrection don't require full bodies, so irritations like a missing heart aren't an issue. Raise Dead would be more problematic.

Ravenous Crypts body parts: Again keep in mind the relatively short time periods for resurrection (even True Resurrection is only 10 years per caster level), and most of the bodies have been dead thousands of years. *HOWEVER* there was a big fight just a few years ago, so it's perfectly possible that some of the fresher body parts are resurrectable. Check out who died in that battle.

Original Vraxeris: Way beyond the time limit.

Vraxeris Clones: GM call. Does dying of a congenital defect count as "old age"? That's an open debate.

[Splendor]

What if Nelevetu Voan dies before he leaves the area (thus before he dies of old age). Could you resurrect him then?

The clone spell moves your spirit from one body to another, so the last body died of old age 2 years ago. Neither Clone nor Resurrection mentions each other (which I'll post a question in the rules section about next) so you should be able to resurrect a clone.

[NobodysHome]

Absolutely fair. I'm not trying to be contrary or antagonistic, just saying how I ruled it.

I felt like the clones died of old age, so they couldn't be resurrected.

I think you're right. Hilarious bit-o-fun: Kill Nelevetu, put his body on a tarp, drag it out and watch it turn to dust, then resurrect him.

I honestly can't argue with that one. :-P

[Kalshane]

Splendor wrote:

Could you cast Resurrection (or even True Resurrection) on some of the people who die in the runeforge?

Nelevetu Voan just died so he should be a valid target.
Ordikon isn't a construct he's mithral-clad. Once resurrected he wouldn't have any of the mithral and might be sane.
Jordimandus... maybe he would be different without the jubliex heart.
The Dead Ordikon's minion in J3.
Some of the body parts in the Ravenous Crypts should be targetable.

I also don't like the description from I3

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The body in the chair has been dead for well over 2 years, yet it looks as if it had only died a moment ago.

These are the remains of Vraxeris himself, magically preserved by Runeforge.

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attempts to raise Vraxeris from the dead automatically fail, though, for his soul has already been judged by Pharasma and has gone on to its final punishment.

He should be resurrectable.

Well, it's well within your rights as GM to overrule the text of the adventure where you feel appropriate. The "soul has already been judged by Pharasma" bit is a Golarian story-telling conceit to explain why the rich and powerful aren't always resurrected if they die before their time. Just keep in mind potential headaches/derails that could be caused by allowing resurrection to work in these cases. If you're willing to deal with those and think it makes for a better story, go for it.