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Well, as the book has been released.... I have one question: When is it going to be added to the PRD? I cannot afford it, I have stopped showing up at PFS meetings and generally stopped appearing here for many reasons.. I still have been checking the site, just not really interacting with anyone... My main question is simply when can we have the classes from the advanced class guide added to the PRD? I have no interest in buying the book really, I just want to read
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It hasn't actually been released yet. Subscription owners have their copy because they get their stuff a bit early. The general release isn't until the 14th of this month. I suspect that it will take them another month or so to have it up on the PRD. It seems that the turn around for that in the past has ranged from a week or so to a month or so in the past if I am remembering right.
With all the other books that need to be added, and the current web issues with order processing, credit cards, address (etc) that need to be fixed, I suspect that it will be closer to three of four months before it is added to the PRD.
I think that I read somewhere that the PDF will be $9.99 (American Dollars). If you are in a hurry, buy the PDF.
-- david
And don't forget we're still waiting for Bestiary 4.
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awesome... If they need help, they should just lock the doors to the office and tell everyone they cannot leave untill the work is finished
You do realize that Paizo does not have to put anything into the PRD. This is not required by the OGL, regardless of what some folks think. And they do not recuperate the time and money spent doing so, other than good will to their customer base.
I know that I am going to get in trouble for the following, but I failed my will save:
What are you, 12? Paizo folks have SOs, families, friends, and other things to do, rather than sit around all day and do just what you want them to do.
-- david
ps. Moderator, delete this post if you need to. The Quoted statement just really pissed me off.
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The Advanced Class Guide will hit the PRD sometime in September.
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thanks chris, and yes I was kidding, I know how much work they put into it, but I have been recently watching some episodes of the simpsons, that was the plot of one of the episodes. As I said papa, theres no real need to get extremely pissed off over this, if I wanted to be a complete and utter arsehat I could of said much worse, once or twice I have made the joke of replacing paizos coffee with decaf.
thanks chris, and yes I was kidding, I know how much work they put into it, but I have been recently watching some episodes of the simpsons, that was the plot of one of the episodes. As I said papa, theres no real need to get extremely pissed off over this, if I wanted to be a complete and utter arsehat I could of said much worse, once or twice I have made the joke of replacing paizos coffee with decaf.
Whoah, there, ratty!
There are some things not even Cosmo would do!
And as for Papa's reaction to your earlier post, mine was pretty much the same as his, but I chose not to post. A problem which could have been avoided by an emoticon.
And as for Papa's reaction to your earlier post, mine was pretty much the same as his, but I chose not to post. A problem which could have been avoided by an emoticon.
This.
Words have meaning and consequences, which I learned the hard way early in my business career of 40 years (retired now).
A simple "lol" or "j/k" or ":-)" would have garnered a completely different reaction from me.
-- david
And as for Papa's reaction to your earlier post, mine was pretty much the same as his, but I chose not to post. A problem which could have been avoided by an emoticon.This.
Words have meaning and consequences, which I learned the hard way early in my business career of 40 years (retired now).
A simple "lol" or "j/k" or ":-)" would have garnered a completely different reaction from me.
-- david
It's interesting how different people reading the same thing read completely different motives and tones into the exact same material. I read the statement as an obviously facetious statement, clearly not something actually meant as a serious suggestion. I honestly can't see how anyone could possibly interpret it as serious, and wold have been perplexed had the poster felt the need to further point out the obvious sarcasm with an emoticon or "j/k" (and to be honest probably a little annoyed by the use of those).
Seems like people do actually experience completely different worlds, even in something as straightforward as the printed word. Sorry about the slight detail, this is one of those things I've been studying recently (perceptions being shaped by an individual's own values and experiences, as part of the fundamentals of instruction) and it's fascinating to see how much reality is fitting the textbook examples.
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It's interesting how different people reading the same thing read completely different motives and tones into the exact same material. I read the statement as an obviously facetious statement, clearly not something actually meant as a serious suggestion. I honestly can't see how anyone could possibly interpret it as serious, and wold have been perplexed had the poster felt the need to further point out the obvious sarcasm with an emoticon or "j/k" (and to be honest probably a little annoyed by the use of those).
Couple of comments so perhaps you can understand my point of view.
I believe that it is a "generational" interpretation. I am 67, and my dad taught me the "old" values from the WWII generation. While I have passed this on to my children and grandchildren, I see so many teenagers and 20-somethings today have the attitude that I read into the original statement.
I did not take it as serious, in that it was to be taken literally, but I read it as "I want it FREE, I want it NOW, and you jackasses better get working on this above all else, because I WANT it!"
Read his two posts. "not buying the book, just want to read it" and "lock them in an office till it is done." With many of my generation and background "them's fightin words, hoss" and like I said, I failed my will save.
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I think calling it a generational issue is oversimplifying, but that could certainly play a part. I don't think it tells the whole story only because both of my grandmothers are in the same rough age range (about a decade older each) and they're two of the more sarcastic people I know.
I've learned peoples perceptions are shaped by their values, experiences, and beliefs, and where and when you lived certainly plays a part, as does a persons attitudes and beliefs regarding the person or object being perceived. Have more I could add but it really isn't relevant to the original topic. Probably should have just left it alone to begin with but it's something I've been heavily studying recently so it perked my interest. I'm not trying to imply anyone's perceptions (yours or mine) are more valid in this case either, or trying to change anyone's perceptions, just making an observation (which makes my post pretty much both off topic and valueless, but I've already written it so here it is). I tend to ramble a bit when I've just worked a night shift too so perhaps this post will manage to be nonsensical as well as off topic.
To swing in the general direction of the topic: somewhat looking forward to this book but as I am undergoing a bit of rules burn out I'm in no real hurry to dig into it. Still, hopefully when it hits the prd (or d20pfsrd.com which my players and I use more) my players will be wowed enough to buy the book or PDF, it's happened recently with kobold press' class guide and some rogue genius games talented class books. It's been new and different to not be the only one who buys all the stuff we use and hopefully it'll continue.
I just downloaded my subscriber PDF, can't wait for my physical copy because its much easier to find the good stuff, but I've been digging into some of the archteypes in the meantime.
The Advanced Class Guide will hit the PRD sometime in September.
Awesome, thank you!
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My grandfather is in his seventies, and he would of gotten the sarcasm.... In fact, we joke about stuff like this all the time... Like locking the pastor at our church out of his office.... I really really can't actually afford any pathfinder books. It sucks hardcore, I was given a free core rulebook and I haven't downloaded it yet due to my computer possibly breaking if I do.... It already crashes if I don't use adblock on certain sites. I simply want to participate in pathfinder society, but I can't. I am just too poor. So I stopped showing up at my meetings and went back to stalking the site.
The classes are up on the d20pfsrd.
PRD is getting the ACG in September, though the Tech guide (a campaign setting book )is now also included in the PRD
It make sense; the ACG is player options, but the Technology Guide is supporting one of their APs. Bread and butter, people. Bread and butter.
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What I need is a store that actually runs pathfinder stuff. The closest store literally has a table run by an anti pathfinder. They sell no pathfinder stuff, but sell plenty of D&D stuff. I have been playing D&D 4e there but I can't get as excited for it as pathfinder. Just due to the fact its so streamlined... Thats a big reason why I don't buy the books, not just cause the prices, no. The prices are reasonable. Just theres no use for them.
What I need is a store that actually runs pathfinder stuff. The closest store literally has a table run by an anti pathfinder. They sell no pathfinder stuff, but sell plenty of D&D stuff. I have been playing D&D 4e there but I can't get as excited for it as pathfinder. Just due to the fact its so streamlined... Thats a big reason why I don't buy the books, not just cause the prices, no. The prices are reasonable. Just theres no use for them.
Kindof OT for this thread, but can you run Pathfinder there on a different night? Or are the store owners personally opposed? Any logically-run gaming store should have at least a small quantity of Pathfinder products (given how well they reportedly sell), but not all gaming stores are logically run.
That's funny, cause my FLGS, which is rather large, has a full shelf of Pathfinder, whereas the owner went on eBay and got rid of the last of the 4E stuff a few months ago, at a discount no less, as it had literally just been sitting there.
There's not a single group that plays 4E in the store, whereas about 50% of all the gaming groups that play there run PF. Though he does have the new 5E stuff, which he said has been selling well.
Well, every area is different. Just because it's the best selling in general doesn't mean it's going to be the best in a given location. Kindof sounds like a chicken-and-egg problem, though.
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yeah, 4E is about as much fun as a week in a drow city and you aren't a drow. My area is extremely tiny, RI is so small that you could fit like a million into texas. We have really good seafood but not much else, If I could manage it, I would totally start a pathfinder game in my FLGS. I think a better idea is invite the entire boston lodge over for homeade cookies and doughnuts, show the shop owner that pathfinder stuff is infinitely superior to D&D and then watch him burn all the D&D stuff.
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yeah, 4E is about as much fun as a week in a drow city and you aren't a drow. My area is extremely tiny, RI is so small that you could fit like a million into texas. We have really good seafood but not much else, If I could manage it, I would totally start a pathfinder game in my FLGS. I think a better idea is invite the entire boston lodge over for homeade cookies and doughnuts, show the shop owner that pathfinder stuff is infinitely superior to D&D and then watch him burn all the D&D stuff.
It is a shame that your local store isn't supporting the game. There is a Venture-Lieutenant in Providence, but I've no idea how close to you he would be. Maybe he can help you with getting some games up and running in your area.