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So, quick question that I've found no text on. The Helpful trait for Halflings says that when performing the Aid Another action the character provides a +4 instead of a +2. Sweet.
The Order of the Dragon for Cavaliers says that at level 2 a cavalier's Aid Another provides a +3 bonus instead of a plus 2.
Logically I would say that a character with both of these should give a +5 on Aid Another actions. I'm looking for any official rulings (with links) or any page numbers that give text on this issue.
Thanks!
Aiding another as a halfling and a cavalier does not stack.
So your helpful 1/2ling dragon cavalier will give a +4 on Aid Another
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What makes you say so? The general rule is that bonuses from different sources stack as long as it isn't the same type of bonus. Both bonuses in this instance is untyped and from different sources... And there aren't special limitations on either ability. Wouldn't that mean that the general rule stands and that they do stack?So, quick question that I've found no text on. The Helpful trait for Halflings says that when performing the Aid Another action the character provides a +4 instead of a +2. Sweet.
The Order of the Dragon for Cavaliers says that at level 2 a cavalier's Aid Another provides a +3 bonus instead of a plus 2.
Logically I would say that a character with both of these should give a +5 on Aid Another actions. I'm looking for any official rulings (with links) or any page numbers that give text on this issue.
Thanks!
Aiding another as a halfling and a cavalier does not stack.
So your helpful 1/2ling dragon cavalier will give a +4 on Aid Another
These are not adding to the +2 from Aid Another, they are changing the +2 to +3 or +4.
If you are a helpful halfling rogue and you aid another do you give a +2 and a +4? No, it is just +4 becasue you are adding one bonus to another character.
If you are a non-helpful halfling dragon cav, you you aid for +5? No, you are only giving a +3.
so a helpful halfing drag cav is only adding aid another bonus to someone else once, thus +4
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Find me a rules quote that says so. The cavalier thing is expresly increasing the aid another bonus. The helpful halfling trait doesn't expresly state that it increases the bonus but it would be very reasonable to rule that it is RAI. Regardless, the halfling trait gets there first and from then on your aid another bonus is +4 and then you get the cavalier bonus which increases the aid another bonus and ends up on +5... And at lvl 8 +6 and at lvl 14 +7 and at lvl 20 +8.
After reading the cav ability closer, I back up.the way it was presented in the OP made them sound like flat changes to the base.
I see no reason to think that they would not work together.
I doubt the OP gets anything official, this is too much a corner case. But the +4 from AA modified by dragon cav does not look to be illegal.
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See, this is precisely the argument I run into. There's no ruling I can find in text on whether it does or doesn't, just players with varying opinions.
One school says that RAW, they don't stack because the cavalier ability and the trait both says "does +3 instead of +2."
The other school says that RAI, they do stack because the base from the trait is no longer +2, but rather a +4, and that the cavalier ability would change from "does +3 instead of +2" to "does +5 instead of +4."
The problem is that neither school has a ruling on it. I'm looking for a definite, in-text answer that has a ruling on this specific instance. I understand both schools of argument, but neither one has a printed ruling saying one or the other is to be used.
RAW, and as usual it is written poorly, the drag cav get a +1 added to AA actions per x levels.
Helpful 1/2ling changes the +2 AA to +4AA
