Kobold Swarm Fighter and Flanking

[movieholic1977]

To whom this concerns,

Share Space (Ex)

At 5th level, the swarm fighter can move into the space of another creature at least one size category larger than she is. She may end her movement in, and make attacks from, that space. She must succeed at the Acrobatics check for moving through an occupied square to move into a space occupied by an enemy. While sharing the space of another creature, she gains a +2 shield bonus to AC and a +1 circumstance bonus on Reflex saves.

This is a tricky wording with lots if unique sub-questions....

Do you treat the creature the kobold is sharing the space with as basically helpless? since helpless is the only condition that a character can pass over with movement?

which is...treated as having a Dexterity of 0 (–5 modifier). Melee attacks against a helpless target get a +4 bonus (equivalent to attacking a prone target). Ranged attacks get no special bonus against helpless targets. Rogues can sneak attack helpless targets.

And your Flanking since you draw a line from your space, his, to their space, his,...to check to see if it passes thru opposite borders...which is hard to say and yields an additional + 2 to attacks on top of the + 6

I checked the Game Guide, The Core Rulebook, Google and i cannot find clarity on this so i seek the Lore with you

Please share your thoughts,

Michael

[FalontheFox]

movieholic1977 wrote:

To whom this concerns,

Share Space (Ex)

At 5th level, the swarm fighter can move into the space of another creature at least one size category larger than she is. She may end her movement in, and make attacks from, that space. She must succeed at the Acrobatics check for moving through an occupied square to move into a space occupied by an enemy. While sharing the space of another creature, she gains a +2 shield bonus to AC and a +1 circumstance bonus on Reflex saves.

This is a tricky wording with lots if unique sub-questions....

Do you treat the creature the kobold is sharing the space with as basically helpless? since helpless is the only condition that a character can pass over with movement?

I'm not sure what the official ruling is, but in my game the answer is no. The Swarm fighter and the creature are both capable of defending themselves. The advantage, is that the swarm fighter gains the shield and reflex saves bonus.

movieholic1977 wrote:

And your Flanking since you draw a line from your space, his, to their space, his,...to check to see if it passes thru opposite borders...which is hard to say and yields an additional + 2 to attacks on top of the + 6

I checked the Game Guide, The Core Rulebook, Google and i cannot find clarity on this so i seek the Lore with you

Please share your thoughts,

Michael

As to Flanking, I rule that Yes! The creature does have to worry about this little guy running around his feat, and is threatening the square that he occupies. So the swarm fighter, and other allies would gain the flanking bonus. But the standard +2, unless other flanking feats increase that bonus as described in the feat.

So that would mean that the swarm fighters allies, would gain flanking on a medium creature from any square adjacent to that creature, so long as the swarm fighter shared the space with that creature.

For larger creatures, it gets more tricky. Since the flanking space is increased on the far side of the creature. At this point, I begin to apply the Flanking

[FalontheFox]

My enter key is my nemesis, apologies.

For larger creatures, it gets more tricky. Since the flanking space is increased on the far side of the creature. At this point, I begin to apply the Flanking rules, in that, the swarm fighter counts as being in the closest square (or squares if nearest a corner) for the purposes of drawing a line through opposing borders.

I hope that this made sense and was helpful! :-)