Repeated uses of Dispel Magic

[nogoodscallywag]

If a wizard tries to dispel an effect and fails, can he simply re-memorize the dispel magic spell and try it again on the same effect?

For instance, a creature is polymorphed. The wizard has plenty of time to keep resting and gaining dispel magic again...to use on the polymorphed creature. In a situation like this, wouldn't the wizard eventually dispel the effect?

Is a natural 20 on a dispel roll an automatic dispel?

[Nearyn]

In theory yes, you could keep trying for as long as you wanted.

There is no indication in the spell that a roll of 20 on the die, yields an automatic success, so I'd say no, it does not.

-Nearyn

[nogoodscallywag]

I see, because it's a caster level check, which are do not have auto-succeeds with natural 20 rolls.

Thanks!

[David_Bross]

A nat 20 would remove 14th level effects when you get it (Cl+9), so if you can't remove it, I'd question what it is doing in your campaign unless you are not a full caster anyways.

[nogoodscallywag]

Duh, of course it would- our main question was whether a natural 20 would result in success.

[wraithstrike]

nat 20's only result in auto success when using attacks rolls or making saves.

[Gauss]

If you are using Hero Points I suggest casting Heroic Fortune beforehand and then using the +8 luck bonus option.

[Torchlyte]

I was under the impression that baleful polymorph cannot be dispelled.

[Orfamay Quest]

Torchlyte wrote:

I was under the impression that baleful polymorph cannot be dispelled.

I'm not familiar with any rules to that effect -- what did I miss?

[wraithstrike]

Any spell with a duration that is not instantaneous can be dispelled, unless there is a specific rules exception for that spell, yes that includes permanent duration spells.

[Gilarius]

Orfamay Quest wrote:

Torchlyte wrote:

I was under the impression that baleful polymorph cannot be dispelled.

I'm not familiar with any rules to that effect -- what did I miss?

Dispel magic says 'Some spells, as detailed in their descriptions, can't be defeated by dispel magic.'

Baleful Polymorph says nothing about dispel magic.

Bestow Curse, for comparison, says 'The curse bestowed by this spell cannot be dispelled, but it can be removed with a break enchantment, limited wish, miracle, remove curse, or wish spell.'

Unless there is any further rule, Orfamay is right and Torchlyte is mistaken/misremembering.

(Flesh to Stone doesn't mention dispel magic, but that is an instantaneous spell so dispel magic cannot work on it)