Stacking Bonuses on different stats affecting the same roll

[jmclaus]

If I have two bonuses that are the same type, morale for example, and they affect different stats of my character, would they both apply on something that uses both stats.

For example, rage gives a morale bonus to strength and the rage power gives a morale bonus to an attack roll. Would both of these apply to a melee attack roll?

Another example, is the morale bonus to will saves while raging stacking with the benefits of superstition, which is a morale bonus against saves against spells and SLAs.

It seems like the answer to the first is yes, or else surprise accuracy is almost entirely useless. At level 20 it gives a +6 bonus while the strength bonus will already give a +4 bonus during rage. By the same reasoning, I would expect the second case to also stack but I was told my GM that superstition did not stack with the base will save bonus from raging, which made sense to me.

[Daniel Thrace]

An attack roll (surprise accuracy rage power) is different then a strength bonus (from rage) so those would stack.

But, technically it seems that Superstition would not stack with the boost to the will save from Raging. Both give moral bonuses to the will save and therefore do not appear to stack. Superstition does boost all three saves, so it is still useful, but certainly less so. And obviously the only time they don't stack is when both would apply (on a will save vs. spells, supernatural abilities, and spell like abilities). In my home game I would likely rule that they stack, but that is just me.

[Jeraa]

jmclaus wrote:

For example, rage gives a morale bonus to strength and the rage power gives a morale bonus to an attack roll. Would both of these apply to a melee attack roll?

They are bonuses to two different things, so both apply. (The bonus to Strength isn't added into the attack roll itself, it is added to your Strength, improving the bonus it provides.)

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Another example, is the morale bonus to will saves while raging stacking with the benefits of superstition, which is a morale bonus against saves against spells and SLAs.

They do not stack. They are both a morale bonus to saves. You wouldn't only be able to benefit from a single bonus at a time.