Mystic Theurge


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Silver Crusade

I have read here where people say a wizard type loses the free access to 2 spells per level once multiclassing to Theurge.

Is that in the books somewhere - RAW?


Spells per Day: When a new mystic theurge level is gained, the character gains new spells per day as if he had also gained a level in any one arcane spellcasting class he belonged to before he added the prestige class and any one divine spellcasting class he belonged to previously. He does not, however, gain other benefits a character of that class would have gained. This essentially means that he adds the level of mystic theurge to the level of whatever other arcane spellcasting class and divine spellcasting class the character has, then determines spells per day, spells known, and caster level accordingly. If a character had more than one arcane spellcasting class or more than one divine spellcasting class before he became a mystic theurge, he must decide to which class he adds each level of mystic theurge for the purpose of determining spells per day.

That's the block for Mystic Theurge. It specifies exactly what you get. It says nothing about getting free spells as a wizard. So no free spells.

Silver Crusade

Rocky -

OK, here is the phrase in question -

'spells known'

It seems to me the 2 spells per level ought to be 'spells known'.


Classes with spells known(Sorcerer, Bard, etc) have a "Spells Known" table. Wizards don't, so mystic theurge won't advance it.


It means that to get higher level spells, you'll need to make money so you can learn them from other wizards, witches, etc. Cause people are greedy, even NPCs.


I've seen a number of GMs house-rule that.

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seebs wrote:
I've seen a number of GMs house-rule that.

Sounds like an excellent discussion for the Homebrew forum, not the Rules forum. RAW is pretty clear that you don't get the extra spells known.

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