Two-Weapon Fighter Greater Two-Weapon Fighting vs Double Strike


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Hello.

I have a Two-Weapon Fighter with the Improved Two-Weapon Fighting feat that just reached 11 level. Since he has the TWF Double Strike ability, does that mean he gets a Pri and Alt attack each at +11,+6, and +1? Or does he need to take the Greater Two-Weapon Fighting feat to get that last Alt attack at +1?

Dukan


The two features have nothing to do with each other.

You may, with doublestrike, take a standard action to attack with both primary and off-hand weapons. It doesn't replace a normal single attack, so you can't use it for AOOs or as part of the full attack. It is just a different choice for your standard action attack (which normally performs just one attack).

With Two-Weapon Fighting and Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, your attacks are +11/+11/+6/+6/+1. You need Greater Two-Weapon Fighting to get a third offhand attack in the full attack sequence.


Ah-hah. OK, that makes sense. Thanks!


Also, GTWF is a trap feat; 1 feat for an attack at -10 to hit is not worth a feat slot. It'd be better to pick up something else.


Kazaan wrote:
Also, GTWF is a trap feat; 1 feat for an attack at -10 to hit is not worth a feat slot. It'd be better to pick up something else.

Unless you're targeting touch AC somehow (hello, pistolero!). Then it's just crazy.


blahpers wrote:
Kazaan wrote:
Also, GTWF is a trap feat; 1 feat for an attack at -10 to hit is not worth a feat slot. It'd be better to pick up something else.
Unless you're targeting touch AC somehow (hello, pistolero!). Then it's just crazy.

Yeah, it's only a trap depending on what your +hit is on that last attack. I have a Paladin NPC who gets +35 on that third offhand attack when he's buffed & smiting, so it's certainly worth it to him.


blahpers wrote:
Kazaan wrote:
Also, GTWF is a trap feat; 1 feat for an attack at -10 to hit is not worth a feat slot. It'd be better to pick up something else.
Unless you're targeting touch AC somehow (hello, pistolero!). Then it's just crazy.

I have a build for that

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