Echoing Spell:
"When you cast an echoing spell, it does not disappear entirely from memory, and you can cast it one additional time during that day. No effect that allows you to reprepare or recast a spell can affect the echoed spell.
If you prepare spells, this second casting does not require you to prepare it in another spell slot. If you spontaneously cast spells, this second casting does not expend another available spell slot."
I was wondering how does this work on spells with multiple metamagics; for instance if I cast an Echoing, Persistent spell, would the "echo" still have Persistent or would it only function as the base spell? Very interested in this for a character that may be able to get Spell Perfection soon; doubling my spell slots for my favored spell is kinda cool.
From what I understand, the echo would be the same as far as Metamagic is concerned.
It works very well, thank you.
Metamagic are applied seperately RAW. (ex. Maximised and Empowered are not max dice plus 50%)
I read that also to mean that you get the base spell back in memory when an Echoing Spell is cast.
Any other thoughts on this? I could see it going either way.
You cast the metamagic'd version a 2nd time using the same slot except without the echo.
Metamagic are applied seperately RAW. (ex. Maximised and Empowered are not max dice plus 50%)
I read that also to mean that you get the base spell back in memory when an Echoing Spell is cast.
That is not a general rule with metamagic. It is an exception as specifically called out by those two metamagic feats.
You cast the metamagic'd version a 2nd time using the same slot except without the echo.
Wraithstrike and others have the right of it. A maximized echoing fireball will in effect let you cast maximized fireball twice with one slot.