Valiant Weapon Property


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So I'm a little confused on the wording for Valiant magical weapon property, I've bolded the part in question

Valiant Weapon:
This special ability can only be placed on melee weapons. When a cavalier wielding a valiant weapon targets a foe with his challenge ability, the valiant weapon deals an additional 1d6 points of damage against that foe. The wielder receives a +2 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to disarm or sunder a challenged foe's weapon as well as a +4 bonus to his CMD against disarm and sunder attacks from that foe.

I'm not sure which of these things it means:

a) When you use the challenge ability the weapon deals 1d6 of damage

b) When you hit your challenged foe you deal 1d6 extra damage

Its worded in a way that leads to a, however that doesn't really seem to make sense to me, also it says "an additional 1d6 of damage" which seems to imply that it add onto the damage which challenge normally does on hit.


The intent is obvious.

The Valiant weapon is designed for you to deal more damage and be more effective in destroying/disarming those whom you Challenge (to Mortal Kombat).

Each attack against a foe you Challenge to Mortal Kombat deals an extra 1D6 damage. It is otherwise a very useless ability.

A better question would be whether the 1D6 bonus would apply to weapons you sunder against a Challenged opponent.


I would be inclined to say it is option B; when you hit a challenged enemy with the weapon you deal your damage as normal (including the challenge bonuses) but get an extra 1d6 on top of it. Think of it like a Flaming weapon, except it is only against the enemy you have challenged and it does physical damage instead of fire.


It deals an additional d6. That's all the feat does. So the weapon deals it's normal damage plus 1d6 extra versus your challenged enemy.

I would say that since the sunder attempt is a maneuver versus the target of your challenge you would get the bonus damage


Thanks guys, thats what I thought too, but I wanted to be 100% sure.

Also I didn't even think of that affecting sundering damage, thats very interesting

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