False Focus and arcane version of Changestaff?


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If a player has the False Focus feat with a 100gp holy symbol, and is able to cast Changestaff as an arcane spell (perhaps through Collegiate Arcanist prestige path), does the False Focus substitute for the required staff component?

There is no cost listed for the staff.
Components V, S, F (a quarterstaff that has been carved and polished for 28 days)

I guess I'm wondering what the value of such a prepared staff would be. My thinking is if it's over 100gp, then it doesn't work.

For comparison's sake, here are some purchasable items valued at 100gp:
- alchemical coal
- ambrosia
- weapon blanch (adamantine)
- troll styptic
- woundweal
- 50' spider's silk rope
- a riding elk or boar

(You get the idea). Thanks for any thoughts.


You're correct that there's no cost for the staff, but logically it shouldn't work. Unlike many other spells that require a focus, it is specifically called out in the description that the spell does use and transform the focus -- into the treant.

If you were to allow False Focus to replace the staff, the spell would likely have to transform the focus (holy symbol) into the treant--meaning that the player wouldn't be able to use their False Focus unless they had another holy symbol handy.


I didn't think of it that way. Your reasoning is logical. Thanks.

Sovereign Court

False Focus doesn't actually allow you to substitute it for Focus components, only Material components.

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