Bardic Masterpieces, do they work this way?

[Shindalm]

Can Exquisite Accompaniment be used with a Masterpiece to have it not cost performance rounds?

Can you have 2 different Masterpieces active at the same time? (ex: Vindictive Soliloquy and The Quickening Pulse simultaneously).

I can't find anything that confirms either option, but I postulate:

1. Exquisite Accompaniment works with Masterpieces because they pull from the same resource as performances and "Talented bards can learn or create masterpieces, unusual applications of the bardic performance ability requiring special training even though you can use them while using a Bardic Performance.

2. You cannot maintain 2 because they are the same root ability. But they are different effects that do not mutually exclude using a second one at the same time/with a different one in effect. (Any support for either side would be appreciated.)

Thoughts?

[Shindalm]

Can anyone link me to the post saying you can have a Masterpiece and Bardic Performance active at the same time? I've found the post where James Jacobs answers with "Yes" but that's not good enough for my GM. His logic is: "Of course you can, with something like Virtuoso Performance active".

I think the "yes" is more encompassing than that, but I can't find the other post I saw.

[SlimGauge]

I once started a thread about bardic masterpieces, but we didn't get much. the thread. I'll be watching this thread with interest.

[Shindalm]

Thanks for the link. It seems you had some similar questions to me. Hopefully we'll get some good traffic on this. ^_^

[Shindalm]

Bump?

[Shindalm]

Final bump attempt.

What I'd really like to know is if 2 Masterpiece effects can be active at the same time.

[Kazaan]

I've always considered Masterpieces to be a sub-set of Bardic Performance just like an archetype or alternate class is a sub-set of a vanilla class. Just as you can't take a level of Ninja if you've taken a level of Rogue because Ninja are Rogues, you can't perform a Masterpiece simultaneously with a Bardic Performance because a Masterpiece is a Bardic Performance; just one requiring the expenditure of a feat slot or spell known to gain access as opposed to being baked into the class.

[Shindalm]

That's what I assumed too. The whole aspect that you can have a BP and a Masterpiece up at the same time is making me question things.

So, based on that, do you think Exquisite Accompaniment (causes you to not expend rounds of performance) would apply to Masterpieces?

[Kazaan]

I'd say it does. Mind you, it still requires a round to start the performance and most MPs are kind of one-shot deals, but still, I'd say it works.