So, after searching around and reading several threads, I understand that the mention of "frightened" in the description of the ability is either a misprint or flavor text, but if a creature fails its save and becomes Shaken, can it then be affected again the next time the dragon activates Frightful Presence, possibly becoming Frightened, and after that Panicked? Or does is it capped at only affecting a creature once?
Also, if a creature fails the save, becomes shaken, and the effect wears off or is removed some time later, can they be affected by the FP again? It seems like the answer to this one is YES, since it the 24 hour immunity is only specified for characters who pass their save.
It makes sense to me that someone scared by a dragon could become more terrified as they're exposed its grandeur and malice some more, and that the initial shock wearing off might not inoculate them against being scared again.
upon a quick glance, it seems that yes, you can in fact do that. Nothing indicates that it's a 1/day ability, and nothing says that you can't advance the fear condition.
Without those exceptions the general rule is that you can make a person shaken and then frightened on the following round. That seems fair though, considering a successful save and their immune from that point forward.
Thanks.
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I don't think I can support this cleanly with references, but I think the answer is that it doesn't stack with itself.
There is the general rule on magic effect interactions that effects from the same source don't stack.
There is the specific rule or ruling, this is the one that I can't cite, that fear effects from the same source don't stack. I believe this has come up previously related to intimidation builds.
I don't think I can support this cleanly with references, but I think the answer is that it doesn't stack with itself.
There is the general rule on magic effect interactions that effects from the same source don't stack.
There is the specific rule or ruling, this is the one that I can't cite, that fear effects from the same source don't stack. I believe this has come up previously related to intimidation builds.
Where is this general rule that magic effects don't stack? I could see why intimidation wouldn't work as it says in the intimidate skill that moving past shaken is not possible. There are several things that call out when they don't stack, this seems to lean more toward things actually stacking unless otherwise noted. There have been several threads about stacking effects such as this one a few months ago:
Why is Gentle Rest so overpowered?
If there is a rule that magic effects don't stack, I can't find it.
Magical effects with the same affect do not stack with themselves. The problem with that section is that some of those things apply to nonmagical affects and it takes a bit of rules parsing to figure things out at times.
Another problem is that by RAW it says spells, but it really applies to magic as whole. I am thinking of starting a thread just to get an FAQ on it.
Magical effects with the same affect do not stack with themselves. The problem with that section is that some of those things apply to nonmagical affects and it takes a bit of rules parsing to figure things out at times.
Another problem is that by RAW it says spells, but it really applies to magic as whole. I am thinking of starting a thread just to get an FAQ on it.
There are two problems here. First, I'm not sure if the rules you are talking about apply to effects that inflict conditions (unless you consider a condition a bonus or penalty, CRB 208-209). Second, Frightful presence is an extraordinary ability, so would not be subject to this alleged rule that magical effects don't stack as it is not magical. Or am I missing something?