Summoner troubles


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Ok, I'm running RoW. The party Bard, besides trying to seduce every female npc or female villain we encounter, has decided to take levels in Summoner. His ingenious idea is that for the first few levels he takes in the class, he is going to use his daily at-will Summon Monster spells to summon ponies (yes, I said ponies) above whoever we are fighting so that they take damage from the falling equine. The falling ponies only do 3d6 damage barring a successful Reflex save. He had hoped to summon whales at higher levels until I pointed out that he cannot summon monsters to areas that cannot support them. I would like to state that the summoned monsters must be called on a solid surface, but it isn't mentioned in the rule. I'm not trying to ruin his fun, it's just asinine when he brags about killing the BBEG by summoning falling ponies. The falling ponies usually take enough damage in the fall to banish them. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.


I would like to clarify, I'm not trying to ruin the player's fun, I just think it's an asinine use of the class ability. The player in question is known for finding new and asinine ways to use spells and abilities. The rule arguments that follow waste a lot of play time.


That rule is mentioned under the general Conjuration rules.

SRD wrote:
A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

I don't usually use the books so I can't give you the page number, but this link leads to where it appears on the SRD.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/magic.html#_conjuration


I've never seen this spell used like this. On the plus side, if you decide to allow it's continued use, it'll soon cap out as a viable strategy.

Honestly, I'd point out that '100 feet in the air' does not qualify as an environment that can support a pony. Quite literally.

Frankly, though, it sounds like he's going to be an issue player. You might wanna start stomping on these ideas before he starts making six cannon wielding rapid-reload eidolon gun-beasts.


His eidolon takes the form of a teenage hentai girl dressed in the Japanese schoolgirl uniform. She fights with unarmed strikes. He hopes to make her unarmed strikes do fire damage in the future. Take from that what you will.


Its one of those ideas that's more funny to think/hear about than it is worthwhile to do. I've heard of something similar tried for sinking ships, that involved elephants, a flying carpet, and wands of shrink and dispel magic.

Sczarni

Sakari has it.

No more falling ponies for him.

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