All-Dhampir Game


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So, after this thread, in which Rynjin basically made the Dhampir that I'd always wanted to see, I started thinking about a possible game or campaign in which all Dhampirs are recruited for whatever reason. Maybe some high ranking mayor or priest needs a vampire slain, or they need someone to go into a haunted mansion or castle, so they hire powerful adventurers who they also see as expendable. And it's perfect, because including that variant that Rynjin made, there are so many different kinds of Dhampir, so you'd get a little bit of everything.

Unfortunately, I really want to play in this sucker and not just run it. So, let me ask some questions.

Anybody interested in playing this?

Anybody interested in running this? I'm not an experienced DM, gaming with me would probably be a bumpy ride.

If I were going to run this thing, I'd probably make things slightly on the Gothic side of fantasy, just for the flavor.

So, yeah. Who's with me?


That's an absolutely fantastic remake of the Dhampir, I love it. I'd totally be interested.

Vamptastic wrote:
Unfortunately, I really want to play in this sucker and not just run it.

You could do both? Have one of the player slots reserved for you as a DMPC?


Isn't it just the greatest?

Yeah, that is a possibility, but I don't want to be That Guy, y'know? If I had a DMPC, he'd have to be horribly, horribly murdered at some point, just so that the players could actually, you know, be adventurers.


I've seen a few GMs pull it off before. As long as you're conscious of not stealing the limelight / railroading the PCs, I think it can definitely work.

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Let me think about running it as a one off - what level are you thinking? If I run it for you I think low-mid level initially. I've a few paper and a lot of PDF modules.


Low level, definitely. We're not running around scalping Wendigos and biting the Terrasque just yet, y'know?


I would definitely be interested in this. ^^ Thematic campaigns are among my favorites, after all, and it would be a great reason to actually make a Dhampir.


I am a Ravenloft fanatic but have no time to run anything. If someone runs it, I will play it.


I definitely like the idea.


So, Helaman, we got bites. You wanna do this, man? Or should I try my hand at it?


This sounds amazing i would love to play if someone GMs.

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Recruitment is cut off. If you've posted above, you're in IF you want. If we are under 4 players I'll seek a 4th.

Okies.

Setting some ground rules.

20pt builds I think. Average HPs after 1st. Lets say 3rd level.

I'll take any core class. Of the base classes, no Summoner (I hate them, sorry) and no Gunslinger (I like them but lets keep the flavour firmly in one camp) and no Samurai and Ninja. Archetypes are ok but avoid those that are linked to race (Dhampir) like kin slayer and crucomancer.

I dont want big arse RP backgrounds etc. Just 2-3 sentences will do.

STICK to the rules as laid out by Ryojin. Make sure read and understand them.

New Campaign feat: Additional Vampiric Qualities.
Choose another 2. Same as before - no two from the same category.

Additional Campaign rule: Vampiric Turn.

If you drain another of their lifeblood (ie they die as a result of it - neg con) you gain an additional Vampiric Quality but if you ever do this once you have ALL the vampiric qualities, your vampiric side takes over and you become a vampire (an NPC one). A Will save DC 15 is needed to stop feeding once you start.

Finally, you are subject to the 'thirst' rules. I'll give you a potion ala 'Blade' to keep the hunger at bay for those not feeding.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/vampire#TOC-Cre atures-And-Their-Hunger

Any issues with the above?

Story wise? You are a specialised team sponsored by a mysterious patron. You are generally used in co-operation and with the request of various religious bodies who need outside expertise. You are all recently come into your power as dhampir and are the minimum age + 3 years allowed by class/race.

I'll be playing this with an E6 slant - so expect NPCs to be 'squishy'.

Any issues with this?


It seems strange to disallow Kin Slayer when one of the proposed game ideas was taking out a vampire, but that's just me.

How much of 'E6 slant' are you using? I've never been interested in the system.


I know you said core classes but would you allow me to use the Bloodrager class from the advanced class guide play test? i haven't gotten to try one out yet.


I like it. I like it a lot. :D

And, he probably doesn't want Kinslayer because it might make things too easy, and plus, we're kind of all "kin slayers" in a way.

Anyway, I'm probably gonna make my character for this tonight or tomorrow.

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Plan this just like any other party folks. You can't all be inquisitors.

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Azten wrote:

It seems strange to disallow Kin Slayer when one of the proposed game ideas was taking out a vampire, but that's just me.

How much of 'E6 slant' are you using? I've never been interested in the system.

Well this is a one off so its not a campaign. You'll never make it above level 6 so it wont be an issue for your game experience.

But I'll be playing plain people as level 1-2 for the most part.

The kinslayer angle is because we've remade the race more or less and I dont want to have to think about archetype balance.

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Billybrainpan wrote:
I know you said core classes but would you allow me to use the Bloodrager class from the advanced class guide play test? i haven't gotten to try one out yet.

Lets keep it to core and a few base classes. Normally I love giving more options and not less but again, I want to keep the class parameters within what is 'known' so that you can play test the racial features rather than the new classes.


@Heleman - I was assuming so, just though i would check.

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Oh - and don't expect 'Vanilla' vampires. Gonna have a little fun with that.


disappointed i didn't see this sooner. i've had a (non-kinslayer) dhampir inquisitor idea for awhile. i'd play it in PFS, but i'd need a boon for that and a vampire heavy thing would probably have been more fun too.


Just so i'm clear, you can suck someone's blood with out turning so long as you don't kill them?

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Yep. Blade did it - gonna use that as a semi guideline - but once you start you may not be able to stop. Allies may even feed you this way from time to time... again, ala Blade.

There are some interesting Anime Dhampir out there too but I'll use that as my central point when considering stuff.

You aren't fledgling vampires but you may become them if you give into your inner hungers too often. Its hard to be a Dhampir that wants to keep their humanity.

And on that note, all standard Dhampir please, no elvish or dwarvish dhampir.

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cuatroespada wrote:
disappointed i didn't see this sooner. i've had a (non-kinslayer) dhampir inquisitor idea for awhile. i'd play it in PFS, but i'd need a boon for that and a vampire heavy thing would probably have been more fun too.

On a side PFS note? I believe Dhampir are considered a playable race without a chronicle like Aasimar and Tiefling. I could be wrong.


I'm loving the sound of all this more and more and more. Hela, man, you're doing everything I wanted to see in this game anyway. Thank you.

Also, not Anime, but I always loved Alucard, from Symphony of the Night.

I assume we roll for wealth, and do it three times?


Here is Rapheal Thorne. Crazed wolf-barbarian.
I took standard 3rd level wealth but i can redo that.
Also are there going to be traits?

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Take the aside further afield... Dhampir are not an open player race in Pathfinder Society. They are from a boon for running the Beginner Box Bash from a couple of years ago.


Name: Ripper. The name he grew up, however, was Frances Herbert Blake. After about the eighth consecutive stomping by the local street kids, Frances tried to adopt various 'tough' street names. Ripper is just the one that stuck, and what he goes by these days.

Race: Dhampir. Duh.

Class: Fighter, Brawler Archetype

History: Ripper has no idea who his father is or was, and doesn't much care at this point. Grew up in an urban sprawl and was basically raised by the streets, has a chip on his shoulder as a result. Made his living betting on himself in bar brawls and prizefights, and built up a reputation as being good at his "job". 'Nuff said.

Hey, I'm slowly building this guy, but I want to clarify what your rules say for a moment.

Rynjin wrote this: "While in Vampiric Form the Dhampir gains a number of vampiric qualities, chosen from the following list. He may choose up to two vampiric qualities, no two from the same category."

Your campaign feat says this: "New Campaign feat: Additional Vampiric Qualities.
Choose another 2. Same as before - no two from the same category."

So we can basically choose four powers, but there are only three categories. How do we pick four abilities without overlap between the categories?


drayen wrote:
Take the aside further afield... Dhampir are not an open player race in Pathfinder Society. They are from a boon for running the Beginner Box Bash from a couple of years ago.

yeah, about boons like that, do they ever come up again?

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WBL for a level 3 character. Feel free to buy magic items etc.

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Oh, one LAST thing, you are either orphans without family from infanthood or children made orphans around early teens or cast out of your family in your late teens.

Two traits, no draw backs. No campaign traits but you can reskin anything else.

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Vamptastic wrote:


Rynjin wrote this: "While in Vampiric Form the Dhampir gains a number of vampiric qualities, chosen from the following list. He may choose up to two vampiric qualities, no two from the same category."

Your campaign feat says this: "New Campaign feat: Additional Vampiric Qualities.
Choose another 2. Same as before - no two from the same category."

So we can basically choose four powers, but there are only three categories. How do we pick four abilities without overlap between the categories?

Its a feat - so you buy it, it's not a freebie.

In picking two powers you can -again- pick from the categories even if you picked from that category before but must pick them from different categories. Consider it as if you were buying as a first level character.

Hope that is clear?

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Vamptastic wrote:


Anybody interested in running this? I'm not an experienced DM, gaming with me would probably be a bumpy ride.

Can you give me control of the thread and open the discussion thread - thx


Oh. Yeah, that's clear, I'm dumb sometimes ha ha.

So, this is the beginnings of my character. Not done making him yet, but hopefully all those changes I just made were saved.

No, it didn't save, I just did all that work for nothing.

Well, time to try again!

EDIT: That's better, nothing was really, truly lost.


I'll get something posted up today!


Helaman wrote:
Vamptastic wrote:


Anybody interested in running this? I'm not an experienced DM, gaming with me would probably be a bumpy ride.
Can you give me control of the thread and open the discussion thread - thx

How do I do that? I'm not seeing where to do that.


I'm definitely going with a Divine caster, I'm just up in the air as to which class (Though, I ruled out Inquisitor).

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Vamptastic wrote:
Helaman wrote:
Vamptastic wrote:


Anybody interested in running this? I'm not an experienced DM, gaming with me would probably be a bumpy ride.
Can you give me control of the thread and open the discussion thread - thx
How do I do that? I'm not seeing where to do that.

Done.

I put in a request.


Awesome.

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Ok all.

I'll start the US Sunday/Aust Monday. Do your characters.


So it's Wednesday for you right now?

And, I'm really excited. Thank you for doing this, Helaman.


@Helaman - Do you see anything wrong with Raphael or is he good to go?


I think Raphael is really cool. Him and Ripper could totally pull a Double Dragon in a fight.


ooh. Just had an idea Vamptastic. Feel free to say no but Raph doesn't have any history right now. how would you feel about them growing up on the streets together?


I don't know about growing up on the streets together, but they could have definitely run in the same circles. Like, they had each other's back when they ran into each other. Totally.


sounds good.


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Not sure whether to be flattered someone's using my thing, or disappointed I missed Recruitment.

Let's go with both. Both sounds good. =p

Interested to see how it goes.


Rynjin wrote:

Not sure whether to be flattered someone's using my thing, or disappointed I missed Recruitment.

Let's go with both. Both sounds good. =p

Interested to see how it goes.

Oh that's hardly acceptable. Take my spot, I'll watch this one.

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Raphael Thorne wrote:
@Helaman - Do you see anything wrong with Raphael or is he good to go?

Good to go. Lucky this is a one off. I'd find ways to make you pay for that dump stat normally but as the format is play test its good to have min-max builds as well. Also, very flavoursome and fits the class too.

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Rynjin wrote:

Not sure whether to be flattered someone's using my thing, or disappointed I missed Recruitment.

Let's go with both. Both sounds good. =p

Interested to see how it goes.

ACTUALLY was planning on PM-ing you and shite happened.

Glad you are here. You have a slot of honour. Go build.

-PM sent as well. This is my bad folks. Its just been one of those weeks.

And now Wednesday night here (8.30pm)

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