sawtooth Kasatha

[J3Carlisle]

for those that dont know, Kasatha is a race with 4 arms. Yes my GM said I can use the race.
I want to duel wield Sawtooth Sabres , because with prof, you can use them offhand as a light weapon, and as they are treated as long swords in all other respects(as far as I can tell)

For classes, I was thinking this

1: Ninja
2: Ninja
3: Ninja
4: Ninja (I waited this long for uncany dodge)
5: Alchemist (vivisectionst /chirurgeon )
6: Alchemist
7: Crimson Assassin
8: Crimson Assassin
9: Crimson Assassin
10: Crimson Assassin
11: Crimson Assassin
12: Crimson Assassin
13: Crimson Assassin
14: Crimson Assassin
15: Crimson Assassin
16: Crimson Assassin
17: Ninja
18: Ninja
19: Ninja
20: Ninja

My stats were rolled, and I applied them like so

STR 14
DEX 18 (16+2 racial)
CON 15
INT 13
WIS 11 (9+2 racial)
CHA 16

I decided Ninja for the Ki pool and the nice ninja tricks, (and rogue tricks) and the dip into Alch gives 3 elixirs and 1 mutagen a day, and the 2nd lvl for discoveries. Vivisectionist to keep the sneak strong, and Chirurgeon because no need to double up on poison use.Crimson Assassin gives extra to my chosen weapon, and some neat side effects like arcane spells, changing form into deadly manti, and some sneak opportunities.

I am working on the feats to use with this character, but they are pretty much just standard crit rogue/ninja.

I have spent too much time looking at this, and have grown tired. Help a fellow adventurer decide if this convoluted build idea is better at dual wielding 2 sawtooth sabres in 4 hands then strait ninja, ranger, or some other class.

[J3Carlisle]

Or race as well I guess, but I dont know how often I will get to use this race

[blackbloodtroll]

Are you just looking for a skilled PC?

[J3Carlisle]

originally that was something I cared about, now I mostly just like the idea of duel wielding the sabre swords in two hands.

[blackbloodtroll]

Dump Ninja, and go Inquisitor of Achaekek, or Trapper/Guide Ranger.

The Red Mantis Assassin prestige class, well, doesn't really work.

The "death attack" that the prestige class provides, doesn't really work.

You will be a better Assassin, with better tricks, if you go with either of the above mentioned classes.

[J3Carlisle]

I understand how a ranger is a good idea, but I dont see anything specific about inquisitor that points me towards two weapon fighting any more then a fighter, or cavalier. with that said, Inquisitor is probably the class that I understand the least.

[Rynjin]

If the only reason you're taking 4 levels of Ninja is to get Uncanny Dodge you may as well just go Barbarian (Urban Barbarians keep Uncanny Dodge so you can Dex Rage) 1/Vivisectionist X (however long to get what you want from it)/Red Mantis Assassin X.

Less convoluted, less multiclassing involved, sorta.

Of course if you're in it for the sweet sweet Vanish, that's good too.

[J3Carlisle]

Rynjin wrote:

If the only reason you're taking 4 levels of Ninja is to get Uncanny Dodge you may as well just go Barbarian (Urban Barbarians keep Uncanny Dodge so you can Dex Rage) 1/Vivisectionist X (however long to get what you want from it)/Red Mantis Assassin X.

Less convoluted, less multiclassing involved, sorta.

Of course if you're in it for the sweet sweet Vanish, that's good too.

I meant that it seems better to take 4 lvls ninja rather then 3, but only for uncanny dodge earlier, rather then getting it at lvl 16.

Yeah, the reason for ninja was pretty much all about the vanish

[XMorsX]

So your stats are 16, 16, 15, 14, 13, 9

I would not be so fast to dismiss the Red Mantis Assasin, the limited access to spellcasting is a great perk IMO.

If you enter the PrC, do it with Weapon Master Fighter 3 / Ninja 2. After the PrC you can continue with lvls of fighter or Eldrich Knight.

Alternatively, I would suggest to take lvls as a Two-Weapon Warrior Fighter. This is probably the best way to become the two-weapon blender you seek but you will lose the fun features and teh spellcasting of the Red Mantis PrC.

I would probably put the stats like this:

STR 16
DEX 15+2=17
CON 16
INT 9
WIS 13+2=15
CHA 14

Even if you go with fighter, having high Charisma will let you take advantage of the Eldrich Heritage (Orc) feats, which will result in massive gains in DPR, Str and willsaves. Just make sure you can start with hte trait Opportunistic Gambler.

[blackbloodtroll]

Ranger also allows you to be more strength focused.

In regards to Inquisitor, there is the free proficiency, Stealth spells, and decent skill points. I suggest the Infiltrator or Heretic archetype.

If you do go Inquisitor, then consider getting Sawtooth Sabres with the Guided enchantment.