Mythic Item


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Dark Archive

Hello everyone:

I was windering if...

Undetectable: This grants its bonded user the
ability to become utterly undetectable while invisible.
While invisible and in physical contact with this
item, the bonded creature can’t be detected or
scryed by any method.

...that means that you are indetectable by magic means but if the evil guy have blindsight, or blindsense, or tremorsense or whatever non-magical means can detect you.

Opinions? I think this is a heavy power you can get at 1st tier...


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Please FAQ.

Dark Archive

I faq-ed V_V

Im afraid....was mythic book released to soon?


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

No. There was a playtest and lots of designer play testing besides. There are relatively few instances of ambiguity in Mythic Adventures (though there are some).

Undetectable is a peculiar case in that if it works the way it seems to work, then it falls into the "woah, overpowered" bracket, which Paizo have taken great pains to avoid, even with the Mythic rules. Which is why we've tried to figure out other options for how it could be intended to work, which would be more balanced. And thus the FAQ (and your thread is the second one this week on exactly the same subject).

Grand Lodge

Chemlak wrote:

No. There was a playtest and lots of designer play testing besides. There are relatively few instances of ambiguity in Mythic Adventures (though there are some).

Undetectable is a peculiar case in that if it works the way it seems to work, then it falls into the "woah, overpowered" bracket, which Paizo have taken great pains to avoid, even with the Mythic rules. Which is why we've tried to figure out other options for how it could be intended to work, which would be more balanced. And thus the FAQ (and your thread is the second one this week on exactly the same subject).

The tier 1 power may seem impressive, but there's no law saying WHEN you have to make your characters mythic.... or even that mythic MUST be permanent. You should only use the mythic mechanics when you have a suitbly challenging campaign.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

True, but I'm wondering how much a party of adventurers, all of whom take Legendary Item, all of whom pick Undetectable, and who decide to load up on wands of invisibility, could break, say, Wrath of the Righteous 2-6 by being able to walk past every single combat encounter.


Not much given that at the end of it all they be severely under powered by having gained little to no xp from those encounters and thus making the bbeg fight impossible.

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