upgrading feats 1: unarmed strike

[showzilla]

Improved unarmed strike
your fists hurt,be it from tae-kwon do, pankration, ringen, karate,ect. you are never with out a weapon.

benefits: your unarmed strike no longer provoke attacks of opportunity. you may deal lethal and non-lethal damage without penalty. your fist deals 1d6 damage, they are considered natural and manufactured weapons for the purposes of feats, magic,ect. you unarmed strikes are considered light, one-handed or two-handed weapons at your choice. at a bab of +3 and every +3 there after, your damage dice increases as such

+3: 1d8

+6: 1d10

+9: 2d6

+12: 2d8

+15: 2d10

+18: 4d6

[Arkady Zelenka]

So how would this interact with the monk or the unarmed fighter?

[Orich Starkhart]

Arkady Zelenka wrote:

So how would this interact with the monk or the unarmed fighter?

Good question Arkady. The damage progression in showzilla's proposed Improved Unarmed Strike advances faster than the Pathfinder Monk's unarmed damage, but the Monk is defined as receiving Improved Unarmed Strike at 1st level, so in a system using this definition the Monk benefits. Perhaps showzilla will tell us this was intended.

[showzilla]

Orich Starkhart wrote:

Arkady Zelenka wrote:

So how would this interact with the monk or the unarmed fighter?

Good question Arkady. The damage progression in showzilla's proposed Improved Unarmed Strike advances faster than the Pathfinder Monk's unarmed damage, but the Monk is defined as receiving Improved Unarmed Strike at 1st level, so in a system using this definition the Monk benefits. Perhaps showzilla will tell us this was intended.

and you are correct. The monk gets this feat as a bonus feat at level 1....but....I will be rebuilding the Monk class to take my upgrading feats into account and just giving it kool sh!t

[christos gurd]

Orich Starkhart wrote:

Arkady Zelenka wrote:

So how would this interact with the monk or the unarmed fighter?

Good question Arkady. The damage progression in showzilla's proposed Improved Unarmed Strike advances faster than the Pathfinder Monk's unarmed damage, but the Monk is defined as receiving Improved Unarmed Strike at 1st level, so in a system using this definition the Monk benefits. Perhaps showzilla will tell us this was intended.

except the monk has a smaller bab as far as feats are concerned so...kinda a slap in the face. it's kinda like granting full weapon training or favored enemy as a single feat each. Even worse the monk won't even be the best at a schtick that they should be the best at. Im not sure im a fan of this, but maybe your monk adjustments could justify it.

[showzilla]

christos gurd wrote:

Orich Starkhart wrote:

Arkady Zelenka wrote:

So how would this interact with the monk or the unarmed fighter?

Good question Arkady. The damage progression in showzilla's proposed Improved Unarmed Strike advances faster than the Pathfinder Monk's unarmed damage, but the Monk is defined as receiving Improved Unarmed Strike at 1st level, so in a system using this definition the Monk benefits. Perhaps showzilla will tell us this was intended.

except the monk has a smaller bab as far as feats are concerned so...kinda a slap in the face. it's kinda like granting full weapon training or favored enemy as a single feat each. Even worse the monk won't even be the best at a schtick that they should be the best at. Im not sure im a fan of this, but maybe your monk adjustments could justify it.

will this help?