Unending performance (M.A. page 49)


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"Unending Performance" cites that "... whenever you use a spell, Bardic performance or class feature to grant a morale or competence bonus..." "... The deaignated creature Keeps this bonus for 24 hours."

If a spell or ability amplified by "Funding performance" were to have a "Competence" and "INSIGHT" bonus on the same ability would the INSIGHT bonus have a duration of 24 hours? Would extra non typed bonuses attached to the ability remain if they exist?

For example (and please forgive the theoretical nature of this example) if "Unending Performance" had the word "Morale" replaced with "Dodge" would the spell "Haste" provide the extra attack for the full 24 hours?

Can't remember if there's any instance where this question comes up, I'm mostly just curious as of this posting.

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HopeAbandoned wrote:

"Unending Performance" cites that "... whenever you use a spell, Bardic performance or class feature to grant a morale or competence bonus..." "... The deaignated creature Keeps this bonus for 24 hours."

If a spell or ability amplified by "Funding performance" were to have a "Competence" and "INSIGHT" bonus on the same ability would the INSIGHT bonus have a duration of 24 hours? Would extra non typed bonuses attached to the ability remain if they exist?

For example (and please forgive the theoretical nature of this example) if "Unending Performance" had the word "Morale" replaced with "Dodge" would the spell "Haste" provide the extra attack for the full 24 hours?

Can't remember if there's any instance where this question comes up, I'm mostly just curious as of this posting.

I was just thinking about this Mythic ability a couple of hours ago. I concluded that the Mythic ability only extends the morale or competence bonus, not the entire effect of the spell, bardic performance or class feature. So, for example, if you cast Delusional Pride, which gives the target a -2 on attacks and skill checks, but a +2 MORALE bonus on saves versus charm and compulsion, then you keep the +2 morale bonus for 24 hours, but not the -2 penalty. My conclusion is that the Mythic ability only extends the morale bonus, not the spell itself.

Since the definition of "ally" includes yourself, can a Barbarian Rage, trigger this to get the morale bonuses to STR and CON for 24 hours, but not actually have to take the penalties during that time.

Another question is does this apply to only ONE morale or competence bonus, or all morale and competence bonuses granted by the spell, bardic performance or class ability? The Mythic ability talks in the singular "to grant a morale or competence bonus"... the "designated creature keeps this bonus". So, in the Barbarian example above, would you have to decide to keep the morale bonus to STR OR CON, but not both?


Hadn't even thought of barbarian rage - a wonderful example of a use for it (very likely unintended but never the less) as is the spell you mentioned (I was thinking of the fear immunity on Greater Heroism myself - have a Bard whom literally can't pass a sight based fear aura an ally generates)

I can certainly see why either would be true - the 24 hour duration for the full ability (penalties and all) or just the buffs mentioned in the ability... It's probably one of those grey area "ask your GM" things, though it leaves PFS kind out in the cold with their tongue stuck to a metal pole...

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