Do charm spells work if you've been hostile in the past?


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To avoid derailing the Succubus Profane Gift thread, does charm person make a target forget or otherwise forgive past offenses including but not limited to sleeping with attractive relatives of theirs such as spouses, attempted murder, larceny, and theft of favored foodstuffs while they were eating lunch? Or do such acts count as threatening the charmed person and breaking the spell?

Personally, I suspect that they don't, otherwise the clause about currently being threatened by the caster or the caster's allies would automatically make the spell null and void instead of merely providing a +5 bonus.


No. it makes them friendly (or whatever) irrespective of previous backstory. If you want to call that "forgiveness," I suppose I wouldn't argue much.

But it's magic, so it's not supposed to be plausible.


That's always been my interpretation as well. You can use it on someone after you've defeated them in combat, for instance.

Doug M.


"Wow. I don't know why I was so mad at you! I mean, you murdering my wife and children wasn't that big a deal after all. I shouldn't have been so upset. You're a pretty good friend, uh, what's your name?"

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