Monastic Legacy & Feral Combat Training?

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Monastic Legacy (prereq includes Improved Unarmed Strike) - Add half the levels you have in classes other than monk to your monk level to determine your effective monk level for your base unarmed strike damage. This feat does not make levels in classes other than monk count toward any other monk class features.

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Feral Combat Training - Choose one of your natural weapons. While using the selected natural weapon, you can apply the effects of feats that have Improved Unarmed Strike as a prerequisite, as well as effects that augment an unarmed strike.

Looks like the damage of your claws can reach the level of your unarmed damage?

[Archaeik]

I assume you're referencing this FAQ?

Yes, this would work.

[Dash Lestowe]

I'm not sure I understand your question.

FCT lets your (selected) natural attack deal exactly the same damage that your unarmed attack deals.

ML lets your unarmed (and selected natural if FCT is taken) attacks advance if you take levels of not monk.

If you were all monk, you wouldn't need Monastic Legacy.

You only need FCT to allow 'the damage of your claws (to) reach the level of your unarmed damage'.

[Kazaan]

If your Monk Unarmed Strike damage were, for the sake of example, 1d8, then the Natural Attack you selected for FCT, if a lower dice than 1d8, would be bumped up to 1d8. Since Monastic Legacy ups that 1d8 based on non-monk levels being converted to a number of additional Monk levels for the purpose of calculating your Unarmed Strike damage, that also applies to your FCT-modified natural attack. So, if, by Monastic Legacy and non-Monk levels, you up your Unarmed Strike to 1d10, even though you only have enough actual Monk levels for 1d8, then your FCT natural attack will also deal 1d8 damage. Savvy?

[Archaeik]

Dash Lestowe wrote:

I'm not sure I understand your question.

FCT lets your (selected) natural attack deal exactly the same damage that your unarmed attack deals.

ML lets your unarmed (and selected natural if FCT is taken) attacks advance if you take levels of not monk.

If you were all monk, you wouldn't need Monastic Legacy.

You only need FCT to allow 'the damage of your claws (to) reach the level of your unarmed damage'.

You only need 3 levels of monk to qualify for Monastic Legacy.

If you were to advance a magical beast or some other creature that has predominantly racial HD, you would be able to count half of those hit dice toward your monk UAS damage, potentially outpacing the base damage of your natural weapon selected for FCT.

Possibly also useful for PCs, if you're attempting to minimize your total dip into monk.

[blahpers]

Racial hit dice aren't "levels in classes other than monk". They would not advance your unarmed damage.

[Archaeik]

blahpers wrote:

Racial hit dice aren't "levels in classes other than monk". They would not advance your unarmed damage.

Please explain to me how you can have class skill associated to your racial HD w/o it being considered a class.

The feat was obviously written from the perspective of PCs who don't have racial HD.

You are correct according to a strict reading of RAW, but I think RAI goes off total HD. (I read it with an emphasis on "levels" rather than "classes")