| Count Coltello |
If you award the players a stone that gives 10 acid resist
Players decide to break it in half, would each half give 5 resist or would it jot work at all any more
On second hand if you have a 5 resist to multiple things like fire and acid
then you broke that one in half
Would you have one 5 fire and 5 acid
Or 2fire and 3 acid?
| Ipslore the Red |
See here for the RAW. Since this is in Advice and not Rules Questions, I'm guessing you're open to the idea of houseruling it?
By RAW, broken does nothing to any item that is not a weapon, armor, shield, wand, staff, or tool. Destroyed destroys it. If they inflicted enough damage to reduce it to 0, it just wouldn't work anymore. Same for the multiple resistances of 5, other than that you always round down in Pathfinder.
You're free to houserule it if you think that'd fit better in the campaign. Half resists for the first one, and for the second, one could give resist fire 5 and the other could give resist acid 5.
| Pizza Lord |
For a 'normal', magically-constructed item, breaking it would leave you with a broken item. You would have a broken magical stone that wouldn't work.
In the case of a special type of rock, found in certain caverns or planes for instance, then it doesn't have to be so. If the power of the stone was dependent on the size of the stone, then breaking it smaller for a smaller benefit is not an unreasonable option (though the PCs don't have to know that).
The fire and acid stone would not be split between fire and acid, unless the property was obviously connected to that part of the stone, for instance a stone that was half red and half yellow. Then breaking the two parts might give you a stone of only fire and one of only acid. More than likely you would get two stones with lesser resistance to both energies.
But, usually a broken item is just broken.
| Pizza Lord |
...broken does nothing to any item that is not...
I think when he said 'break in half' that's different than giving something the broken condition. Something broken in half is not the same as being at half hit points and getting the 'broken' condition.
And how would you break said item in half
Most items are broken just like their normal counterparts. Magical items typically have more hit points and hardness to resist damage, but otherwise you still just smash a rock with a big hammer, or break a sword over your knee (assuming you could break a normal sword over knee). Burn a magical book or rip the pages.
Unless the item is specifically immune to the damage, like a ring of fire immunity being hard to melt, you shouldn't have any real trouble breaking an item you possess with a little effort. This different than trying to destroy an enemy's item in battle, however.
To break a stone in half, even a magical stone, use a chisel and hammer.
| Count Coltello |
Ipslore the Red wrote:...broken does nothing to any item that is not...I think when he said 'break in half' that's different than giving something the broken condition. Something broken in half is not the same as being at half hit points and getting the 'broken' condition.
Count Coltello wrote:And how would you break said item in halfMost items are broken just like their normal counterparts. Magical items typically have more hit points and hardness to resist damage, but otherwise you still just smash a rock with a big hammer, or break a sword over your knee (assuming you could break a normal sword over knee). Burn a magical book or rip the pages.
Unless the item is specifically immune to the damage, like a ring of fire immunity being hard to melt, you shouldn't have any real trouble breaking an item you possess with a little effort. This different than trying to destroy an enemy's item in battle, however.
To break a stone in half, even a magical stone, use a chisel and hammer.
That does help and most stone from other planes would have the same hardness do you think
And a bard would do a knowledge planes roll to see/sense what kind of stone it is right or is it a different knowledge roll
And would you just tell the bard a stone of acid resist or go with it is a greenish stone that looks like it would not ... something
| Pizza Lord |
Stone is a generic term, so you can make it as tough as you like. Higher or lower hardness or higher or lower hit points per inch. That's all up to you.
It would likely be a knowledge check to know about the stone. Whether it is planar, local, or natural likely depends on where and how it's found. Unless it was really distinctive though, or you were in the location, you would need some clue to make you connect the dots. Such as a sewer made of the stuff or seeing it in action.
For a bard to know about it with bardic knowledge there would have to be a suitable story for it. Such as a hero/villain who was resistant to acid and possessed a 'green stone' amulet.
Or maybe a tale about a town plagued by acid rain from the gods who were saved temporarily when heroes rode into town on a railroad and traveled to a dungeon/other plane and returned with stones that protected the townspeople who held them until they could solve the problem. Unfortunately they were jailed for trespassing before succeeding.
| Count Coltello |
Stone is a generic term, so you can make it as tough as you like. Higher or lower hardness or higher or lower hit points per inch. That's all up to you.
It would likely be a knowledge check to know about the stone. Whether it is planar, local, or natural likely depends on where and how it's found. Unless it was really distinctive though, or you were in the location, you would need some clue to make you connect the dots. Such as a sewer made of the stuff or seeing it in action.
For a bard to know about it with bardic knowledge there would have to be a suitable story for it. Such as a hero/villain who was resistant to acid and possessed a 'green stone' amulet.
Or maybe a tale about a town plagued by acid rain from the gods who were saved temporarily when heroes rode into town on a railroad and traveled to a dungeon/other plane and returned with stones that protected the townspeople who held them until they could solve the problem. Unfortunately they were jailed for trespassing before succeeding.
Woah I like the city acid rain totally stealing that, maybe with out the jail seems too railroadish
lol but yes that's why I'm looking at the stone for the acid boss or somethingEdit: just reread that and saw railroad part... awesome lol and what's sad would probably work for a backstory for the stones